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Post by Blunashun on Oct 27, 2023 18:06:43 GMT
Kasten is a Rhodes scholar compared to Moreno. How is it a team can have the 2 best players in the game and not even reach .500? Angel fans won't like that Trout is traded away, but he deserves better than to go home every October and neither will they like it that Showtime walks but what about pitching? Reid Detmers is good, but who'll take Showtime's place in the rotation in '24? I'd hate to lose Dustin, but 2 major surgeries in 3 years has left him behind and his spot needs to be filled now. If he's an Angel, I wish him the best. I really don't see a scenario where the Angles send the Dodgers what will be their only remaining Hall of Famer and one of the top players in the majors still. Normally I'd agree. But Trout can twist their arms. The Angels can be remembered as the team that trapped the greatest player of his generation. Not something you'd advertise in season ticket sales. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 27, 2023 21:23:14 GMT
Smith - C Freeman - 1B Lux - 2B Arenado - 3B Rojas - SS Outman - LF Trout - CF Betts - RF Martinez - DH Kershaw
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SheehanRe-up Muncy & trade him. Fraudy as jr. calls him  is already talking that they shouldn't "Overreact" to another end of season ouster. I hope he really doesn't mean that and just get a guy or two and run it back. Anyway, in an alternate universe it'd be nice to see: RF Betts 1B Freeman 3B Arenado DH Ohtani C Smith CF Outman SS Rosario 2B Lux LF Kike/Heyward Where's Walkman? You don't think he can come back healthy? Several pitchers have done well after 2 TJs. He did pitch well at AAA in August, both 2 innings, with 2 Ks. He wisely didn't come back in September to further strengthen his elbow. He can and should be he ace. Kersh is done. |
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Post by jrgreene6 on Oct 27, 2023 22:04:56 GMT
Fraudy as jr. calls him is already talking that they shouldn't "Overreact" to another end of season ouster. I hope he really doesn't mean that and just get a guy or two and run it back. Anyway, in an alternate universe it'd be nice to see: RF Betts 1B Freeman 3B Arenado DH Ohtani C Smith CF Outman SS Rosario 2B Lux LF Kike/Heyward Where's Walkman? You don't think he can come back healthy? Several pitchers have done well after 2 TJs. He did pitch well at AAA in August, both 2 innings, with 2 Ks. He wisely didn't come back in September to further strengthen his elbow. He can and should be he ace. Kersh is done. Seems like Kersh will be back again next year. I think the decision to retire comes much before it has now. But does he stay in Dodger Blue? Years of speculating him closing his career in his home state might finally come to fruition this time. Especially since he probably has a much better shot at a ring than LA has shown nearly EVERY one of his seasons here. Of course, if not for the cheating Asshoes and his complete meltdown in October every year, he just might have another couple of rings for those fingers. We shall see . . . GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 28, 2023 0:34:55 GMT
Fraudy as jr. calls him is already talking that they shouldn't "Overreact" to another end of season ouster. I hope he really doesn't mean that and just get a guy or two and run it back. Anyway, in an alternate universe it'd be nice to see: RF Betts 1B Freeman 3B Arenado DH Ohtani C Smith CF Outman SS Rosario 2B Lux LF Kike/Heyward Where's Walkman? You don't think he can come back healthy? Several pitchers have done well after 2 TJs. He did pitch well at AAA in August, both 2 innings, with 2 Ks. He wisely didn't come back in September to further strengthen his elbow. He can and should be he ace. Kersh is done. I forgot Buehler. Good point. How deep would that staff be? At first the economics didn't make sense to me. Like we were pie-in-the-sky dreaming. But then I got to thinking: Bauer is off the books. Urias won't get a dime. Muncy will be traded. That's 45-50 million right there. The good thing about Trout & Arenado is they won't be getting paid to PLAY into their 40's. Correa last winter was scary. This is the direction they're headed in? There will be no agonizing over Urias. His punched his own ticket out of town. I reiterate that I would DEMAND compensation from the Cardinals. Moreno can be dealt with by jingling keys in front of him. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 29, 2023 13:57:12 GMT
Manjerk is at it again with the changes! I'd love to hear what a MLB pitcher thinks of this, such as Dan Plesac on the MLB channel! If you're not in a bad mood now, after you get done reading this, you will be.
World Series 2023: Rob Manfred says MLB might look to further limit the number of pitchers teams can carry
Even with rosters capped at 13 pitchers, the league average for innings per start went down in 2023, which Manfred views as an issue
Hannah Keyser
Hannah Keyser·Senior MLB reporter
Fri, October 27, 2023 at 7:10 PM MST·4 min read
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ARLINGTON, Texas — It’s not just in the postseason that managers have quick hooks. Starting pitchers have gone fewer and fewer innings and, as a result, have had a diminished role for years now. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred indicated Friday that he would like to attack that trend through restricting the number of pitchers a team can carry — beyond what the league has already done.
In 1969, when Tom Seaver won the Cy Young pitching more than 270 innings and Bob Gibson threw more than 300, starters averaged about 6.5 innings per start. By 2019, more than a full inning had been shaved off that average. Justin Verlander won the Cy Young, and his 223 innings were the most thrown by any pitcher. The league average was 5.2 innings per start, and Major League Baseball was in the early throes of figuring out how far it could go to push the style of play toward an earlier era by tinkering with rules and regulations.
That winter, MLB decided to limit the number of pitchers a team could carry on its roster to 13. The hope was that if the same number of innings were spread among fewer arms, teams would have to let their starters go deeper into games. Then there was a pandemic, then there was a lockout, and that rule was left unenforced for years before finally being officially implemented in June 2022.
Yet the league average for innings per start didn’t budge. This year, with the limit in place, it went down; in 2023, starters averaged 5.1 innings per start. The explanation is simple: Baseball’s information age has given teams a greater understanding of the fact that pitchers are more vulnerable to getting hit the more times they see a particular batter. Bringing in a fresh arm — especially if it throws triple digits — is just good strategy. But it’s bad for making starters main characters, and it certainly hasn’t kept them safe from injury.
“Historically, starting pitchers have been some of the biggest stars in the game,” Manfred said Friday before Game 1 of the World Series. “And I think the way that pitching is being used right now has caused a diminution in that star kind of quality for some of our starters, and I do think it's an issue that we should talk about.”
Manfred works for the 30 team owners, and he said they care about the disappearance of the starting pitcher for the same reason the league implemented a slate of rules designed to alter the aesthetic of the sport.
“I think they care because it's relevant to how our fans see the game,” he said. “To the extent that what we did this year in terms of rule changes was successful, I think that it was successful because the focus was — from the very beginning, in terms of developing, testing, deciding and then ultimately negotiating those real changes — it was about what our fans were telling us about the game. That's why they care about the pitching issue.”
Although he later clarified that he didn’t anticipate anything would be changed as soon as next season, Manfred was clear that he’d be willing to further reduce the number of pitchers teams can carry.
“I think the most direct way to get at it is numbers, limiting numbers on the roster,” he said. “We went to 13. I don't think it's had the desired effect. There are a few numbers smaller than 13. Twelve would be next.”
The commissioner was also asked about several other on-field issues.
On the subject of building a better baseball — one that has enough grip that pitchers feel comfortable without resorting to spin-enhancing sticky stuff — he said the progress has been “kind of a C-minus in general.” The version MLB had been testing apparently got “gummy” in the heat, but they’ve begun talking to officials from Japan, where players already use a pre-tacked baseball.
“I'm hoping that'll kind of move us forward a little more quickly on the baseball project,” Manfred said.
And while a World Series featuring two wild-card teams has drawn some criticism about how quickly regular-season super-teams can be bounced from the playoffs, Manfred lauded the unpredictability of the postseason as a feature, not a bug, of baseball.
“If the die was cast, right, meaning that if I win 100 [games] in the regular season, I'm gonna win the World Series, I don't think that's as interesting as what we have witnessed over the last month,” he said.
Still, he admitted that public concern would merit further consideration.
“All I can say about consternation, because it's kind of a constant in our game, is that it will at least motivate a conversation about whether we have it right,” Manfred said. “Enough has been written and said that we have to think about it and talk about it. But again, my own view is that the format served us pretty well.”
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Post by truedodger on Oct 29, 2023 14:31:13 GMT
Where's Walkman? You don't think he can come back healthy? Several pitchers have done well after 2 TJs. He did pitch well at AAA in August, both 2 innings, with 2 Ks. He wisely didn't come back in September to further strengthen his elbow. He can and should be he ace. Kersh is done. I forgot Buehler. Good point. How deep would that staff be? At first the economics didn't make sense to me. Like we were pie-in-the-sky dreaming. But then I got to thinking: Bauer is off the books. Urias won't get a dime. Muncy will be traded. That's 45-50 million right there. The good thing about Trout & Arenado is they won't be getting paid to PLAY into their 40's. Correa last winter was scary. This is the direction they're headed in? There will be no agonizing over Urias. His punched his own ticket out of town. I reiterate that I would DEMAND compensation from the Cardinals. Moreno can be dealt with by jingling keys in front of him. There is strong chatter that the Giants will persue either Ohtani or Trout. And, we have to assume they would be in on Arenado as well. The issue in trades for them is that they have the 14th ranked farm system and the Dodgers the 6th ranked farm. The rankings are as of mid- season. |
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 29, 2023 14:43:01 GMT
Manjerk is at it again with the changes! I'd love to hear what a MLB pitcher thinks of this, such as Dan Plesac on the MLB channel! If you're not in a bad mood now, after you get done reading this, you will be. World Series 2023: Rob Manfred says MLB might look to further limit the number of pitchers teams can carry Even with rosters capped at 13 pitchers, the league average for innings per start went down in 2023, which Manfred views as an issue Hannah Keyser Hannah Keyser·Senior MLB reporter Fri, October 27, 2023 at 7:10 PM MST·4 min read 225 ARLINGTON, Texas — It’s not just in the postseason that managers have quick hooks. Starting pitchers have gone fewer and fewer innings and, as a result, have had a diminished role for years now. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred indicated Friday that he would like to attack that trend through restricting the number of pitchers a team can carry — beyond what the league has already done. In 1969, when Tom Seaver won the Cy Young pitching more than 270 innings and Bob Gibson threw more than 300, starters averaged about 6.5 innings per start. By 2019, more than a full inning had been shaved off that average. Justin Verlander won the Cy Young, and his 223 innings were the most thrown by any pitcher. The league average was 5.2 innings per start, and Major League Baseball was in the early throes of figuring out how far it could go to push the style of play toward an earlier era by tinkering with rules and regulations. That winter, MLB decided to limit the number of pitchers a team could carry on its roster to 13. The hope was that if the same number of innings were spread among fewer arms, teams would have to let their starters go deeper into games. Then there was a pandemic, then there was a lockout, and that rule was left unenforced for years before finally being officially implemented in June 2022. Yet the league average for innings per start didn’t budge. This year, with the limit in place, it went down; in 2023, starters averaged 5.1 innings per start. The explanation is simple: Baseball’s information age has given teams a greater understanding of the fact that pitchers are more vulnerable to getting hit the more times they see a particular batter. Bringing in a fresh arm — especially if it throws triple digits — is just good strategy. But it’s bad for making starters main characters, and it certainly hasn’t kept them safe from injury. “Historically, starting pitchers have been some of the biggest stars in the game,” Manfred said Friday before Game 1 of the World Series. “And I think the way that pitching is being used right now has caused a diminution in that star kind of quality for some of our starters, and I do think it's an issue that we should talk about.” Manfred works for the 30 team owners, and he said they care about the disappearance of the starting pitcher for the same reason the league implemented a slate of rules designed to alter the aesthetic of the sport. “I think they care because it's relevant to how our fans see the game,” he said. “To the extent that what we did this year in terms of rule changes was successful, I think that it was successful because the focus was — from the very beginning, in terms of developing, testing, deciding and then ultimately negotiating those real changes — it was about what our fans were telling us about the game. That's why they care about the pitching issue.” Although he later clarified that he didn’t anticipate anything would be changed as soon as next season, Manfred was clear that he’d be willing to further reduce the number of pitchers teams can carry. “I think the most direct way to get at it is numbers, limiting numbers on the roster,” he said. “We went to 13. I don't think it's had the desired effect. There are a few numbers smaller than 13. Twelve would be next.” The commissioner was also asked about several other on-field issues. On the subject of building a better baseball — one that has enough grip that pitchers feel comfortable without resorting to spin-enhancing sticky stuff — he said the progress has been “kind of a C-minus in general.” The version MLB had been testing apparently got “gummy” in the heat, but they’ve begun talking to officials from Japan, where players already use a pre-tacked baseball. “I'm hoping that'll kind of move us forward a little more quickly on the baseball project,” Manfred said. And while a World Series featuring two wild-card teams has drawn some criticism about how quickly regular-season super-teams can be bounced from the playoffs, Manfred lauded the unpredictability of the postseason as a feature, not a bug, of baseball. “If the die was cast, right, meaning that if I win 100 [games] in the regular season, I'm gonna win the World Series, I don't think that's as interesting as what we have witnessed over the last month,” he said. Still, he admitted that public concern would merit further consideration. “All I can say about consternation, because it's kind of a constant in our game, is that it will at least motivate a conversation about whether we have it right,” Manfred said. “Enough has been written and said that we have to think about it and talk about it. But again, my own view is that the format served us pretty well.” Speed guns did this. The art of pitching used to be keeping hitters off balance, with changes of speed, location, movement & fear. Fear of having someone like Drysdale or Gibson planting one in your ear. Fear was largely eliminated in the 1980's. About the same time guns were introduced. The emphasis on speed was stressed. Some pitchers now throw sliders in the 90's. Barry Bonds wore body armor. He was leaning all over the strike zone. What Manfred is considering is making starting pitchers totally disposable. Yes. We still want you to throw 95-100 mph. Throw wicked breaking pitches around 92-93 mph. You can't protect the strike zone by throwing inside. There will be even MORE injuries. It's every bit as callous as letting pitchers throw at hitters' heads. How is it speeding up the game by carrying less pitchers to get lit up? |
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 29, 2023 14:46:01 GMT
I forgot Buehler. Good point. How deep would that staff be? At first the economics didn't make sense to me. Like we were pie-in-the-sky dreaming. But then I got to thinking: Bauer is off the books. Urias won't get a dime. Muncy will be traded. That's 45-50 million right there. The good thing about Trout & Arenado is they won't be getting paid to PLAY into their 40's. Correa last winter was scary. This is the direction they're headed in? There will be no agonizing over Urias. His punched his own ticket out of town. I reiterate that I would DEMAND compensation from the Cardinals. Moreno can be dealt with by jingling keys in front of him. There is strong chatter that the Giants will persue either Ohtani and Trout. And, we have to assume they would be in on Arenado as well. The issue in trades for them is that they have the 14th ranked farm system and the Dodgers the 6th ranked farm. The rankings are as of mid- season. Don't forget Trout's full no-trade clause. Mike can choose to move across town, to a team that annually wins 100 games. Or take his chances on a team that's on again, off again. I haven't been high on acquiring Ohtani for some time now. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 29, 2023 16:21:59 GMT
I forgot Buehler. Good point. How deep would that staff be? At first the economics didn't make sense to me. Like we were pie-in-the-sky dreaming. But then I got to thinking: Bauer is off the books. Urias won't get a dime. Muncy will be traded. That's 45-50 million right there. The good thing about Trout & Arenado is they won't be getting paid to PLAY into their 40's. Correa last winter was scary. This is the direction they're headed in? There will be no agonizing over Urias. His punched his own ticket out of town. I reiterate that I would DEMAND compensation from the Cardinals. Moreno can be dealt with by jingling keys in front of him. There is strong chatter that the Giants will persue either Ohtani and Trout. And, we have to assume they would be in on Arenado as well. The issue in trades for them is that they have the 14th ranked farm system and the Dodgers the 6th ranked farm. The rankings are as of mid- season. I've heard that too, but Ohtani won't be able to pitch for another year, so that leaves three great hitters but no starting pitchers. Though the Gnats' starters ranked 10th in the bigs, they still need to shore it up if they want to compete to win the west. THey were 79-82 this past year. Then again, they have the #1 ranked starting lefty prospect Kyle Harrison. His ERA at AAA was 4.66 with a 1.52 WHIP so we'll see how he does in the spring. Still, pursuing a good starter this winter I would think would be their top priority. THe team ranked 24th in runs scored so they have a lot of dealing to do. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 29, 2023 16:27:01 GMT
Manjerk is at it again with the changes! I'd love to hear what a MLB pitcher thinks of this, such as Dan Plesac on the MLB channel! If you're not in a bad mood now, after you get done reading this, you will be. World Series 2023: Rob Manfred says MLB might look to further limit the number of pitchers teams can carry Even with rosters capped at 13 pitchers, the league average for innings per start went down in 2023, which Manfred views as an issue Hannah Keyser Hannah Keyser·Senior MLB reporter Fri, October 27, 2023 at 7:10 PM MST·4 min read 225 ARLINGTON, Texas — It’s not just in the postseason that managers have quick hooks. Starting pitchers have gone fewer and fewer innings and, as a result, have had a diminished role for years now. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred indicated Friday that he would like to attack that trend through restricting the number of pitchers a team can carry — beyond what the league has already done. In 1969, when Tom Seaver won the Cy Young pitching more than 270 innings and Bob Gibson threw more than 300, starters averaged about 6.5 innings per start. By 2019, more than a full inning had been shaved off that average. Justin Verlander won the Cy Young, and his 223 innings were the most thrown by any pitcher. The league average was 5.2 innings per start, and Major League Baseball was in the early throes of figuring out how far it could go to push the style of play toward an earlier era by tinkering with rules and regulations. That winter, MLB decided to limit the number of pitchers a team could carry on its roster to 13. The hope was that if the same number of innings were spread among fewer arms, teams would have to let their starters go deeper into games. Then there was a pandemic, then there was a lockout, and that rule was left unenforced for years before finally being officially implemented in June 2022. Yet the league average for innings per start didn’t budge. This year, with the limit in place, it went down; in 2023, starters averaged 5.1 innings per start. The explanation is simple: Baseball’s information age has given teams a greater understanding of the fact that pitchers are more vulnerable to getting hit the more times they see a particular batter. Bringing in a fresh arm — especially if it throws triple digits — is just good strategy. But it’s bad for making starters main characters, and it certainly hasn’t kept them safe from injury. “Historically, starting pitchers have been some of the biggest stars in the game,” Manfred said Friday before Game 1 of the World Series. “And I think the way that pitching is being used right now has caused a diminution in that star kind of quality for some of our starters, and I do think it's an issue that we should talk about.” Manfred works for the 30 team owners, and he said they care about the disappearance of the starting pitcher for the same reason the league implemented a slate of rules designed to alter the aesthetic of the sport. “I think they care because it's relevant to how our fans see the game,” he said. “To the extent that what we did this year in terms of rule changes was successful, I think that it was successful because the focus was — from the very beginning, in terms of developing, testing, deciding and then ultimately negotiating those real changes — it was about what our fans were telling us about the game. That's why they care about the pitching issue.” Although he later clarified that he didn’t anticipate anything would be changed as soon as next season, Manfred was clear that he’d be willing to further reduce the number of pitchers teams can carry. “I think the most direct way to get at it is numbers, limiting numbers on the roster,” he said. “We went to 13. I don't think it's had the desired effect. There are a few numbers smaller than 13. Twelve would be next.” The commissioner was also asked about several other on-field issues. On the subject of building a better baseball — one that has enough grip that pitchers feel comfortable without resorting to spin-enhancing sticky stuff — he said the progress has been “kind of a C-minus in general.” The version MLB had been testing apparently got “gummy” in the heat, but they’ve begun talking to officials from Japan, where players already use a pre-tacked baseball. “I'm hoping that'll kind of move us forward a little more quickly on the baseball project,” Manfred said. And while a World Series featuring two wild-card teams has drawn some criticism about how quickly regular-season super-teams can be bounced from the playoffs, Manfred lauded the unpredictability of the postseason as a feature, not a bug, of baseball. “If the die was cast, right, meaning that if I win 100 [games] in the regular season, I'm gonna win the World Series, I don't think that's as interesting as what we have witnessed over the last month,” he said. Still, he admitted that public concern would merit further consideration. “All I can say about consternation, because it's kind of a constant in our game, is that it will at least motivate a conversation about whether we have it right,” Manfred said. “Enough has been written and said that we have to think about it and talk about it. But again, my own view is that the format served us pretty well.” Speed guns did this. The art of pitching used to be keeping hitters off balance, with changes of speed, location, movement & fear. Fear of having someone like Drysdale or Gibson planting one in your ear. Fear was largely eliminated in the 1980's. About the same time guns were introduced. The emphasis on speed was stressed. Some pitchers now throw sliders in the 90's. Barry Bonds wore body armor. He was leaning all over the strike zone. What Manfred is considering is making starting pitchers totally disposable. Yes. We still want you to throw 95-100 mph. Throw wicked breaking pitches around 92-93 mph. You can't protect the strike zone by throwing inside. There will be even MORE injuries. It's every bit as callous as letting pitchers throw at hitters' heads. How is it speeding up the game by carrying less pitchers to get lit up? How many fewer injuries would there have been and are now if the brass had only listened to Dr Mike Marshall? His protege, Jeff Sparks was driven out of the bigs once they learned how he was pitching so successfully. Marshall strongly denounced how young pitchers have been taught to pitch and on his website he was very technical about arm motion but phrased it in a way that laypeople can understand. His record o 106 games pitched in a single year still stands. THe way he puts it is kind of funny: "'trainors" today think Sir Isaac Newton invented the fig newton and they don't know a rotator cuff from a trouser cuff". |
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Post by truedodger on Oct 29, 2023 16:57:45 GMT
There is strong chatter that the Giants will persue either Ohtani and Trout. And, we have to assume they would be in on Arenado as well. The issue in trades for them is that they have the 14th ranked farm system and the Dodgers the 6th ranked farm. The rankings are as of mid- season. Don't forget Trout's full no-trade clause. Mike can choose to move across town, to a team that annually wins 100 games. Or take his chances on a team that's on again, off again. I haven't been high on acquiring Ohtani for some time now. I just find it hard to believe that the Angels would give the Dodgers more luster by helping them with one of the best players in the game still. I also believe that Trout wants out no matter where. He was talking about not having an opportunity to be able to play in post-season. Anaheim is almost last in farm rankings so they're not going anywhere soon with Trout on the team. Frisco contends or at least makes an effort to unlike the Angels. So, I have to start seeing what's the next best thing to going to the Dodgers. And, I'm with you about Ohtani. Get me two stud pitchers or a stud pitcher and a stud hitter with the $50- $60 million. |
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 29, 2023 20:19:31 GMT
Don't forget Trout's full no-trade clause. Mike can choose to move across town, to a team that annually wins 100 games. Or take his chances on a team that's on again, off again. I haven't been high on acquiring Ohtani for some time now. I just find it hard to believe that the Angels would give the Dodgers more luster by helping them with one of the best players in the game still. I also believe that Trout wants out no matter where. He was talking about not having an opportunity to be able to play in post-season. Anaheim is almost last in farm rankings so they're not going anywhere soon with Trout on the team. Frisco contends or at least makes an effort to unlike the Angels. So, I have to start seeing what's the next best thing to going to the Dodgers. And, I'm with you about Ohtani. Get me two stud pitchers or a stud pitcher and a stud hitter with the $50- $60 million. Yeah. This past season put on full display the pros & cons of having a two-way superstar like Ohtani. The Angels lost their best pitcher AND best hitter, all in one throw. He won't be pitching this next year. We can only wonder what that does to his hitting. He DID eventually go on IL. What Trout wants is at least as important as what Moreno thinks he wants. Frankly, that guy couldn't differentiate between Willie Mays & John Hale. Mike has a no-trade clause. He's going to want out, especially if Ohtani leaves. As previously stated, Angels fans suck. They scalp their tickets to the biggest games of the year. I know. I've sat in their seats. They hate LA. What a cesspool LA is. There's a burrito stand on every corner. You guys have crime running rampant. I hate the Dodgers. Say - how are our Lakers doing? I've conversed with these mental midgets. About times gone by. Chico Ruiz pulling a gun on Alex Johnson in the Halos' clubhouse. Tony Conigliaro retiring, saying he was close to losing his mind. It was an Angels pitcher who beaned Conigliaro when he was with the Red Sox. About the Angels' team bus rolling down a hillside. Donnie Moore taking his own life. Lyman Bostock getting shot on a road trip to Chicago. I get blank stares. Who was the Halos pitcher who died in an auto accident several years back? That team is cursed. Now they're cursed with Moreno as their owner. Mike can tow his personal fans up the 405. Moreno might not have much say. It depends on how decent Mike wants to be. And he seems like a pretty decent guy. |
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Post by truedodger on Oct 30, 2023 16:00:13 GMT
I just find it hard to believe that the Angels would give the Dodgers more luster by helping them with one of the best players in the game still. I also believe that Trout wants out no matter where. He was talking about not having an opportunity to be able to play in post-season. Anaheim is almost last in farm rankings so they're not going anywhere soon with Trout on the team. Frisco contends or at least makes an effort to unlike the Angels. So, I have to start seeing what's the next best thing to going to the Dodgers. And, I'm with you about Ohtani. Get me two stud pitchers or a stud pitcher and a stud hitter with the $50- $60 million. Yeah. This past season put on full display the pros & cons of having a two-way superstar like Ohtani. The Angels lost their best pitcher AND best hitter, all in one throw. He won't be pitching this next year. We can only wonder what that does to his hitting. He DID eventually go on IL. What Trout wants is at least as important as what Moreno thinks he wants. Frankly, that guy couldn't differentiate between Willie Mays & John Hale. Mike has a no-trade clause. He's going to want out, especially if Ohtani leaves. As previously stated, Angels fans suck. They scalp their tickets to the biggest games of the year. I know. I've sat in their seats. They hate LA. What a cesspool LA is. There's a burrito stand on every corner. You guys have crime running rampant. I hate the Dodgers. Say - how are our Lakers doing? I've conversed with these mental midgets. About times gone by. Chico Ruiz pulling a gun on Alex Johnson in the Halos' clubhouse. Tony Conigliaro retiring, saying he was close to losing his mind. It was an Angels pitcher who beaned Conigliaro when he was with the Red Sox. About the Angels' team bus rolling down a hillside. Donnie Moore taking his own life. Lyman Bostock getting shot on a road trip to Chicago. I get blank stares. Who was the Halos pitcher who died in an auto accident several years back? That team is cursed. Now they're cursed with Moreno as their owner. Mike can tow his personal fans up the 405. Moreno might not have much say. It depends on how decent Mike wants to be. And he seems like a pretty decent guy. Yeah, I guess a conversation with Moreno can go. Hey Artie, you need to trade me, get back some good prospects and get payroll relief because I think that if I stay I'm going to be gettting hurt a lot and spending time in the jacuzzi on the IL. Problem is Trout doesn't seem like that type of guy. |
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Post by jrgreene6 on Oct 30, 2023 17:47:15 GMT
I just find it hard to believe that the Angels would give the Dodgers more luster by helping them with one of the best players in the game still. I also believe that Trout wants out no matter where. He was talking about not having an opportunity to be able to play in post-season. Anaheim is almost last in farm rankings so they're not going anywhere soon with Trout on the team. Frisco contends or at least makes an effort to unlike the Angels. So, I have to start seeing what's the next best thing to going to the Dodgers. And, I'm with you about Ohtani. Get me two stud pitchers or a stud pitcher and a stud hitter with the $50- $60 million. Yeah. This past season put on full display the pros & cons of having a two-way superstar like Ohtani. The Angels lost their best pitcher AND best hitter, all in one throw. He won't be pitching this next year. We can only wonder what that does to his hitting. He DID eventually go on IL. What Trout wants is at least as important as what Moreno thinks he wants. Frankly, that guy couldn't differentiate between Willie Mays & John Hale. Mike has a no-trade clause. He's going to want out, especially if Ohtani leaves. As previously stated, Angels fans suck. They scalp their tickets to the biggest games of the year. I know. I've sat in their seats. They hate LA. What a cesspool LA is. There's a burrito stand on every corner. You guys have crime running rampant. I hate the Dodgers. Say - how are our Lakers doing? I've conversed with these mental midgets. About times gone by. Chico Ruiz pulling a gun on Alex Johnson in the Halos' clubhouse. Tony Conigliaro retiring, saying he was close to losing his mind. It was an Angels pitcher who beaned Conigliaro when he was with the Red Sox. About the Angels' team bus rolling down a hillside. Donnie Moore taking his own life. Lyman Bostock getting shot on a road trip to Chicago. I get blank stares. Who was the Halos pitcher who died in an auto accident several years back? That team is cursed. Now they're cursed with Moreno as their owner. Mike can tow his personal fans up the 405. Moreno might not have much say. It depends on how decent Mike wants to be. And he seems like a pretty decent guy. Don’t forget that young kid pitcher who was supposed to be the next Nolan Ryan who OD’s a couple / few years ago. They sure hush hushed that one up in a hurry. GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 30, 2023 19:02:21 GMT
Yeah. This past season put on full display the pros & cons of having a two-way superstar like Ohtani. The Angels lost their best pitcher AND best hitter, all in one throw. He won't be pitching this next year. We can only wonder what that does to his hitting. He DID eventually go on IL. What Trout wants is at least as important as what Moreno thinks he wants. Frankly, that guy couldn't differentiate between Willie Mays & John Hale. Mike has a no-trade clause. He's going to want out, especially if Ohtani leaves. As previously stated, Angels fans suck. They scalp their tickets to the biggest games of the year. I know. I've sat in their seats. They hate LA. What a cesspool LA is. There's a burrito stand on every corner. You guys have crime running rampant. I hate the Dodgers. Say - how are our Lakers doing? I've conversed with these mental midgets. About times gone by. Chico Ruiz pulling a gun on Alex Johnson in the Halos' clubhouse. Tony Conigliaro retiring, saying he was close to losing his mind. It was an Angels pitcher who beaned Conigliaro when he was with the Red Sox. About the Angels' team bus rolling down a hillside. Donnie Moore taking his own life. Lyman Bostock getting shot on a road trip to Chicago. I get blank stares. Who was the Halos pitcher who died in an auto accident several years back? That team is cursed. Now they're cursed with Moreno as their owner. Mike can tow his personal fans up the 405. Moreno might not have much say. It depends on how decent Mike wants to be. And he seems like a pretty decent guy. Yeah, I guess a conversation with Moreno can go. Hey Artie, you need to trade me, get back some good prospects and get payroll relief because I think that if I stay I'm going to be gettting hurt a lot and spending time in the jacuzzi on the IL. Problem is Trout doesn't seem like that type of guy. I like the jacuzzi part.  But Mike CAN say he's getting older & his salary is holding the team back from rebuilding. Arte would still have Anthony Rendon. |
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is already talking that they shouldn't "Overreact" to another end of season ouster. I hope he really doesn't mean that and just get a guy or two and run it back. Anyway, in an alternate universe it'd be nice to see:
