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Post by truedodger on Nov 17, 2021 17:15:54 GMT
Hearing rumors of Matt Olson and Chapman. I'd really like Chapman. I think he'd fit nicely over there if Seager is not re-signed to play 3rd. I'm totally on the fence on Trea since we know about his talent however guy totally sucks in post- season. And we need more of those just like we need more injuries, right?! About Olson, we have plenty of guys at the MLB and minor league level that can fill- in at 1st on the cheap. You guys know that I'm totally down with moving Muncy and getting something good right now since he is still productive. With Bellinger is getting to be time to make a decision granted he is still under team control for '22 and '23. In all I wish we could free up Bauer's money and move Price and Muncy for anything and Muncy for something good.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 17, 2021 21:47:37 GMT
Dodgers' Mookie Betts: Not expected to need surgery
Rotowire 1 HR AGO
Betts said Wednesday that his right hip has felt good early in the offseason, and he doesn't expect to require surgery, Juan Toribio of MLB.com reports.
Betts missed about a month between July and August while battling a hip issue, but he was an everyday player across the final month of the 2021 season. Although the right fielder will undergo at least one more checkup this winter to monitor the issue, he looks as though he'll be in line for a relatively normal offseason.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 17, 2021 21:49:38 GMT
Superficially at least, that seems like an asinine comment. He was battling hip pain. He got an injection. It had to be cortisone. That's the only long lasting pain reliever I can think of. You're not playing. Of course your hip feels better.
Hopefully we don't hear about his hip again next year.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Nov 18, 2021 0:13:34 GMT
Superficially at least, that seems like an asinine comment. He was battling hip pain. He got an injection. It had to be cortisone. That's the only long lasting pain reliever I can think of. You're not playing. Of course your hip feels better. Hopefully we don't hear about his hip again next year. Dr. Betts!!! Is there a Dr. Betts in the building?!? ABSOLUTELY LOVE when these guys (and, of course, our own internal bench manager / MD Roberts) “diagnose” themselves. He’ll probably dick around all off season and then show up in Zona, aggravate it further and then figure out surgery might be necessary. I can see this one coming from all the way across the US. GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 3:58:15 GMT
Superficially at least, that seems like an asinine comment. He was battling hip pain. He got an injection. It had to be cortisone. That's the only long lasting pain reliever I can think of. You're not playing. Of course your hip feels better. Hopefully we don't hear about his hip again next year. Dr. Betts!!! Is there a Dr. Betts in the building?!? ABSOLUTELY LOVE when these guys (and, of course, our own internal bench manager / MD Roberts) “diagnose” themselves. He’ll probably dick around all off season and then show up in Zona, aggravate it further and then figure out surgery might be necessary. I can see this one coming from all the way across the US. GO DODGERS!!! I was surprised he was still just thinking about it. The Dodgers have a lot invested in him & should have some say in this. |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 7:39:06 GMT
How the Dodgers fared in NL Cy Young Award voting Eric Stephen 7 hrs ago A strong finish to the regular season after the Dodgers acquired him at the trade deadline fueled Max Scherzer’s rise to finish third in 2021 National League Cy Young Award. Walker Buehler finished fourth and Julio Urías was tied for seventh, the fourth time that three Dodgers received votes for the league’s top pitcher. Corbin Burnes of the Brewers won the Cy Young Award, with the Phillies’ Zack Wheeler second. Scherzer received six first-place votes, five second-place votes, 13 third-place votes, and six fourth-place votes from the Baseball Writers Association of America. That’s good for a total of 113 points, in a system that gives seven points for each first-place votes, four points for second, three points for third, two points for fourth, and one point for each fifth-place vote. Scherzer was 7-0 with a 1.98 ERA and 1.96 FIP after joining the Dodgers, who won all 11 of his starts during the regular season. On the season, Scherzer had a 2.46 ERA and 2.97 FIP in 30 starts with the Nationals and Dodgers. He led the league in WHIP (0.864) and finished second in strikeouts (236) in his 179⅓ innings. Scherzer has finished in the top five in Cy Young voting eight times (2013-19, 2021). Buehler, who set career bests in wins (16), ERA (2.47), starts (33), and innings (207⅔) while striking out 212 batters, received two second-place votes, nine third-place votes, 17 fourth-place votes, and one fifth-place tally, finishing in fourth place. He was named on 29 of 30 ballots. “I think I checked a lot of boxes for myself and goals I’ve set for myself for a long time, and was finally able to achieve them and stay healthy,” Buehler said on the final day of the regular season. “To make 33 starts is the biggest thing for me, and I feel really proud about that.” Urías, in his first full season in the rotation, had a 2.96 ERA and 3.13 FIP in 32 starts, and led the majors with 20 wins. Counting the postseason, his 200⅔ innings were 73 more than his previous career high. “I felt very confident that I was going to be able to do this,” Urías said during the NLDS. “That’s always been a goal to go out every fifth day and go out there and pitch the way that I have.” Urías received three fifth-place votes, tying with Adam Wainwright of the Cardinals for seventh place in Cy Young balloting. This is the fourth time three Dodgers received any votes for the Cy Young in the same year, along with 1974 (Mike Marshall, Andy Messersmith, Don Sutton), 2017 (Kershaw, Kenley Jansen, Alex Wood) and 2019 (Ryu, Kershaw, Buehler). www.espn.com/mlb/stats/player/_/view/pitching/players/8 |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Nov 18, 2021 13:53:27 GMT
Hearing rumors of Matt Olson and Chapman. I'd really like Chapman. I think he'd fit nicely over there if Seager is not re-signed to play 3rd. I'm totally on the fence on Trea since we know about his talent however guy totally sucks in post- season. And we need more of those just like we need more injuries, right?! About Olson, we have plenty of guys at the MLB and minor league level that can fill- in at 1st on the cheap. You guys know that I'm totally down with moving Muncy and getting something good right now since he is still productive. With Bellinger is getting to be time to make a decision granted he is still under team control for '22 and '23. In all I wish we could free up Bauer's money and move Price and Muncy for anything and Muncy for something good. In a single sentence, you said you want to get rid of Muncy, and then you acknowledge he's still productive. And you're not so sure about Belli? He played the entire season with two injuries that hadn't healed all the say. And you're not sure about Trea cos he didn't play well in the playoffs? Well, until '17, Kersh was also a poor playoff pitcher wasn't he? The only thing you said that I agree with is that we need to dump Price any way we can. You think too much like George Steinbrenner. |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 15:12:42 GMT
Hearing rumors of Matt Olson and Chapman. I'd really like Chapman. I think he'd fit nicely over there if Seager is not re-signed to play 3rd. I'm totally on the fence on Trea since we know about his talent however guy totally sucks in post- season. And we need more of those just like we need more injuries, right?! About Olson, we have plenty of guys at the MLB and minor league level that can fill- in at 1st on the cheap. You guys know that I'm totally down with moving Muncy and getting something good right now since he is still productive. With Bellinger is getting to be time to make a decision granted he is still under team control for '22 and '23. In all I wish we could free up Bauer's money and move Price and Muncy for anything and Muncy for something good. In a single sentence, you said you want to get rid of Muncy, and then you acknowledge he's still productive. And you're not so sure about Belli? He played the entire season with two injuries that hadn't healed all the say. And you're not sure about Trea cos he didn't play well in the playoffs? Well, until '17, Kersh was also a poor playoff pitcher wasn't he? The only thing you said that I agree with is that we need to dump Price any way we can. You think too much like George Steinbrenner. A buddy of mine said the exact same thing about Trea. He added we should get rid of him. My answer was succinct. "No." |
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Post by truedodger on Nov 18, 2021 18:49:53 GMT
Let me explain gentlemen maybe that will help my position lol.
I've seen a lot of Muncy hitting 2nd and yes he puts up numbers, lots of walks and some home runs. But, this is where I say that I've seen him fail an awful lot for the type of hype he gets and for the position where he bats in the order. I am totally down with moving him because there are other options there, first Bellinger who is all world athletically, then JT who can be moved there if another 3rd baseman is acquired and then upcoming guys like Rios who sadly was hurt and to a lesser extent Beaty, McKinney etc and I mean you can always find 1st basemen that contribute on the wire just like Pujols. I'd like to move him while he still has value because to me guys like Muncy's cinderella story can have the clock strike midnight rather sooner than later.
With Bellinger there has to be a plan because they are running out of team control and can't afford to give everyone a multi- year big contract. If you give it to him then you can't give it to Seager, Trea, Buehler, Scherzer etc there's only so much soft cap to go around. Me, I have always said I'd give it to Seager over Bellinger on the proposition that Seager moves to 3rd though.
Then we come to Trea. Everyone and their mother is of the impression that he'll command a big money contract. So, if that's the case then why not give it to Seager who has hit with the best of them IN post- season. Guy was an MVP damn it lol. Trea is skillful no question but when we get to free agency and he struggles again in '22 post- season are we sure we want to lock him up for life and instead let Seager go who's been there and done that many times, IDK.
Steinbrenner comp is kind of funny, nice one lol.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 18:53:21 GMT
MLB qualifying offer: Brandon Belt accepts Giants' $18.4 million offer; 13 other players decline
Players had until Wednesday evening to accept or reject
By Mike Axisa
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Wednesday was the deadline for the 14 free agents who received a qualifying offer to either accept or reject the one-year, $18.4 million contract. The qualifying offer is set at the average of the top 125 salaries in baseball, and players who accept it return to their team on that one-year deal, and players who reject it are tied to draft pick compensation.
Here are the 14 free agents who received the qualifying offer this year. Only six free agents received it last offseason, and the 14 are the most since a record 20 free agents received the qualifying offer in 2015-16.
1B Brandon Belt, Giants
OF Nick Castellanos, Reds
OF Michael Conforto, Mets
SS Carlos Correa, Astros
1B Freddie Freeman, Braves
RHP Raisel Iglesias, Angels
LHP Robbie Ray, Blue Jays
LHP Eduardo Rodriguez, Red Sox
SS Corey Seager, Dodgers
IF Marcus Semien, Blue Jays
SS Trevor Story, Rockies
RHP Noah Syndergaard, Mets
UT Chris Taylor, Dodgers
RHP Justin Verlander, Astros
Free agents who were traded at midseason (like Kris Bryant, Nelson Cruz, and Max Scherzer) are not eligible to receive the qualifying offer, ditto for the free agents who have received a qualifying offer previously (like Kevin Gausman and Marcus Stroman). If you're curious why a big name free agent didn't receive the qualifying offer, he probably falls into one of those two buckets.
As noted, the deadline to accept or reject the qualifying offer was Wednesday, Nov. 17. Here are the qualifying offer decisions for this year's 14 free agents as announced by each team.
Corey Seager
LAD • SS • 5
As expected, Seager has declined the qualifying offer. Seager has a nine-figure contract coming his way this offseason even while attached to draft pick compensation. Because the Dodgers paid luxury tax this season, they will only receive a compensation draft pick after the fourth round should Seager sign elsewhere, regardless of contract size. Our R.J. Anderson ranked Seager the No. 2 free agent on the market.
Chris Taylor
LAD • CF • 3
Taylor has declined the qualifying offer, which is not a surprise given his offensive production and ability to play just about anywhere on the field. Similar to Seager, the Dodgers will only receive a compensation draft pick after the fourth round should Taylor sign elsewhere regardless of contract size because they paid luxury tax this year. Our R.J. Anderson ranked Taylor the No. 12 free agent on the market.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 18:55:08 GMT
That is some crappy compensation. But the Dodgers are probably going to have to choose between Seager & Taylor. Superficially that would be a no-brainer. But then Seager probably gets something in the range of $250,000,000 to $300,000,000 & he doesn't want to change positions.
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Post by truedodger on Nov 18, 2021 19:01:31 GMT
With what we have my plan for the position players this upcoming year would be:
1B-- JT
2B-- Lux
SS-- Trea
3B-- Seager
LF-- Pollock
CF-- Bellinger
RF-- Betts
C--- Smith
Find a cheap super utility guy or go with two a RHH and LHH like McKinstry etc.
I'd ride out JT at 1st with an eye on Bellinger and Rios in '23 when JT either chooses to retire or can be bought out for $2 million. Same with Pollock who can be bought out for $5 million.
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Post by truedodger on Nov 18, 2021 19:02:15 GMT
Anyone like the Matt Chapman or Javier Baez idea at 3rd?
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 18, 2021 19:03:27 GMT
Let me explain gentlemen maybe that will help my position lol. I've seen a lot of Muncy hitting 2nd and yes he puts up numbers, lots of walks and some home runs. But, this is where I say that I've seen him fail an awful lot for the type of hype he gets and for the position where he bats in the order. I am totally down with moving him because there are other options there, first Bellinger who is all world athletically, then JT who can be moved there if another 3rd baseman is acquired and then upcoming guys like Rios who sadly was hurt and to a lesser extent Beaty, McKinney etc and I mean you can always find 1st basemen that contribute on the wire just like Pujols. I'd like to move him while he still has value because to me guys like Muncy's cinderella story can have the clock strike midnight rather sooner than later. With Bellinger there has to be a plan because they are running out of team control and can't afford to give everyone a multi- year big contract. If you give it to him then you can't give it to Seager, Trea, Buehler, Scherzer etc there's only so much soft cap to go around. Me, I have always said I'd give it to Seager over Bellinger on the proposition that Seager moves to 3rd though. Then we come to Trea. Everyone and their mother is of the impression that he'll command a big money contract. So, if that's the case then why not give it to Seager who has hit with the best of them IN post- season. Guy was an MVP damn it lol. Trea is skillful no question but when we get to free agency and he struggles again in '22 post- season are we sure we want to lock him up for life and instead let Seager go who's been there and done that many times, IDK. Steinbrenner comp is kind of funny, nice one lol. Muncy has one year left on his contract at $13,000,000. Then there's a 1.5 million dollar buyout if the Dodgers don't bring him back for 2023. That's very affordable for what he provides. I think the frustration you & others experience (myself included) with Muncy is he goes for a homerun every time. With Friedman at the helm though, whoever he acquires to take Max's place will be doing the same thing. Just likely not as well. Seager is truly our best hitter. I've felt that for years. WHEN he's on the field. Imagine our outcry if he's signed to a HUGE contract & something else breaks on the guy. He's like a Chinese pen from The 99 Cent Store. Something WILL break off. Sonner rather than later too. |
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Post by truedodger on Nov 18, 2021 19:04:18 GMT
That is some crappy compensation. But the Dodgers are probably going to have to choose between Seager & Taylor. Superficially that would be a no-brainer. But then Seager probably gets something in the range of $250,000,000 to $300,000,000 & he doesn't want to change positions. That's the only problem right there. |
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