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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 23:55:17 GMT
Pecota projections for 2020 are out and have Dodgers with 102.5 wins. No one else is at 100. Team is LOADED, that is not an opinion it is a fact. Heard that and no one will come close in the NL West either, according to Pecota. Anyway, no one here is arguing that the team isn't loaded on paper. Let's see what happens in post- season on the field. |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 23:56:36 GMT
Seriously though. Why is it that Pete got a lifetime ban and these fuckers are still going to compete this season.
Totally seems like two sets of cheating rules. I'm not happy.
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Post by truedodger on Feb 12, 2020 0:09:39 GMT
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Reliever Baez, Dodgers go to arbitration $500K apart.
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Bye, Petey?
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Post by Blunashun on Feb 12, 2020 1:34:34 GMT
@espnlosangeles Reliever Baez, Dodgers go to arbitration $500K apart. ------------------------- Bye, Petey? Over $500,000? Then they didn't think too much of him. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 12, 2020 4:10:36 GMT
If the team’s metrics dont apply to the postseason then how is it that they have the most postseason wins in MLB over the last 7 years? maybe you’re trying just a little too hard to find a reason they didn’t win the World Series. Maybe, just maybe, it’s not all that complicated. I do agree Doc made some moves that backfired. He’s way above average though, he’s not the reason. sometimes in baseball you just lose. Blown lead in game 5 last year, 2nd best vs. Boston in 2018, game 5 cheating by the Astros in 2017, lose a tough series in 2016. It’s just baseball, one team wins and one team loses. The overall picture tells a different story. The team is absolutely LOADED, even more so than last year. It’s impossible to criticize that. It's pretty simple bro. The platoon metric thing is done with. That is why they have gone out and acquired Betts. No more reason to platoon Joc and Taylor in the leadoff spot. That's why even though the A's and Rays have also won a lot have failed to win the whole damn thing, same concept different place. You also have to agree that even though the team won other teams in the NL were watered down or not as good, look no further than our division. Well no even though the Asstros cheated if the Dodgers get Verlander instead who even though didn't get the wins pitched exceptionally well for them. Things like such I'm just not looking for a reason. I agree that in baseball sometimes you just lose. But last year was a freakin choke job. Has nothing to do with anything else. I agree that this is the most loaded team in the last 3 years. Glad management felt the heat and made a big move. We'll see if Betts can deliver away from Fenway and in post- season. If you disagree with the above then we'll just disagree. 100% proven wrong. Platoons absolutely work. And right now Joc still platoons with AJ. This s simple logic. If a guy can’t hit .200 against LHP then he sits down. If a guy can’t hit .200 against RHP then he sits down. your arguing against the most basic strategy in the history of baseball. The Nats platooned last year and won. The Red Sox platooned players in 2018 and won. The Astros platooned some in 2017, cheated and then won. Math never lies, the stats never lie. We can disagree all day long, the problem is that would make you wrong. Simple math my friend. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 12, 2020 4:12:15 GMT
@espnlosangeles Reliever Baez, Dodgers go to arbitration $500K apart. ------------------------- Bye, Petey? Why would that mean he gets cut? If the got to arbitration The arbitartor will rule on what he gets paid. End of story. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 12, 2020 4:16:48 GMT
Pecota projections for 2020 are out and have Dodgers with 102.5 wins. No one else is at 100. Team is LOADED, that is not an opinion it is a fact. Heard that and no one will come close in the NL West either, according to Pecota. Anyway, no one here is arguing that the team isn't loaded on paper. Let's see what happens in post- season on the field. So are you saying you have a bad feeling about the postseason right now? I don’t. So do you think they are good enough to win it all or do you think the “metrics” are a bad fit and they will lose in the postseason? Pick a side now, let’s not wait to see What happens. No cop outs, Pick a side. you know my view and that guarantees nothing. This is the absolute best dodger team in history. I think they have a real good shot to win but there are no guarantees. After all, the 1988 team won a WS also and they weren’t really very good at all. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 12, 2020 4:20:51 GMT
Report: Alex Cora, Dodgers Warned Nationals About Astros Before World Series
SCOTT POLACEK
FEBRUARY 11, 2020
Andrew Harnik/Associated Press
The Washington Nationals reportedly had advance warning about the Houston Astros' sign-stealing going into the 2019 World Series.
According to Barry Svrluga and Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post, former Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora—who was the Astros' bench coach and involved in the sign-stealing in 2017—reached out to good friend and Nationals manager Dave Martinez to warn him ahead of Washington's matchup with Houston.
What's more, a number of Los Angeles Dodgers players reportedly told Nationals infielder Brian Dozier, who played in Los Angeles the previous year, about the sign-stealing.
Nationals pitcher Max Scherzer also reached out to reliever Tony Sipp, who spent part of the 2019 campaign with Washington and pitched for Houston from 2014 through 2018. A source told Svrluga and Sheinin that Sipp warned Scherzer the Nationals had to be concerned about stolen signs even when there wasn't a runner on second base.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Feb 12, 2020 5:54:10 GMT
I’ve been reading along with the usual bulldog & TD back and forth and both have made and justified their points as usual. Betts may very well be the “missing link” in our title hopes. But I’m skeptical, at best that his impact will be that substantial.
We were probably going to win the division again, with or without him. His .200 postseason average does very little to lead me personally to believe he’ll be the “difference maker”.
And while our entire offense has been M.I.A. the last three postseasons, we lost more games on the mound than at the plate, none more apparent than last year against the Nats. And that is still something they have yet to address.
We lost both Ryu and Maeda and even with them, we still don’t match up to the likes of Scherzer, Strasburg, Sanchez, Corbin and company. We have one ace (Buehler) compared to their three or four.
Kershaw may never get over his October woes, especially after those two bombs last year. Price has never been much more than a number three. Urias? Is he a starter? A long reliever? A short power reliever? Will LA ever make a decision on him?
May / Goose / Stripling? All very young and very unproven. And that’s just the starters. Our pen has been a revolving door of no names and our closer needs at least a three run lead to get three outs without blowing the save.
On paper we will score a lot of runs and win 100 + games. But they all go out the pooper come October and without pitching, we’re looking at another long, cold disappointing winter.
Like I said before - glass half empty . . .
GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Feb 12, 2020 13:52:35 GMT
I’ve been reading along with the usual bulldog & TD back and forth and both have made and justified their points as usual. Betts may very well be the “missing link” in our title hopes. But I’m skeptical, at best that his impact will be that substantial. We were probably going to win the division again, with or without him. His .200 postseason average does very little to lead me personally to believe he’ll be the “difference maker”. And while our entire offense has been M.I.A. the last three postseasons, we lost more games on the mound than at the plate, none more apparent than last year against the Nats. And that is still something they have yet to address. We lost both Ryu and Maeda and even with them, we still don’t match up to the likes of Scherzer, Strasburg, Sanchez, Corbin and company. We have one ace (Buehler) compared to their three or four.
Kershaw may never get over his October woes, especially after those two bombs last year. Price has never been much more than a number three. Urias? Is he a starter? A long reliever? A short power reliever? Will LA ever make a decision on him? May / Goose / Stripling? All very young and very unproven. And that’s just the starters. Our pen has been a revolving door of no names and our closer needs at least a three run lead to get three outs without blowing the save.On paper we will score a lot of runs and win 100 + games. But they all go out the pooper come October and without pitching, we’re looking at another long, cold disappointing winter. Like I said before - glass half empty . . . GO DODGERS!!! Our starters' ERA was 3.11 last season, and the Nats' was 3.53. This season, you never know. I have confidence in our kids. May and Goose might fill out the rotation, with Gaterol and Gray waiting in the wings. And you never know, the Nats' aces might have an off-season or have injuries. But I also worry about Kershaw. We all know he's well past his prime, though still a solid #2 in the rotation. But serving up those homers on back to back pitches might have ruined his confidence, which I know he's worked on all spring and has beat himself up about. Of course, Kelly and Roberts didnt' help. And as for our bullpen, it had a 3.78 ERA, 4th in the bigs and 1st in the NL. And the Nats', believe it or not, were dead last in reliever ERA! You can bet their fans are worried about their bullpen. It just seems like our bullpen is lousy cos this is the era of the juiced up balls and bats and bringing in the fences. And Jansen is in Kershaw's boat. If there's one thing the Dodgers have always been known for at least since the early 50s is great rotations, and this coming season will be no exception. |
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Post by jrgreene6 on Feb 12, 2020 14:47:32 GMT
I’ve been reading along with the usual bulldog & TD back and forth and both have made and justified their points as usual. Betts may very well be the “missing link” in our title hopes. But I’m skeptical, at best that his impact will be that substantial. We were probably going to win the division again, with or without him. His .200 postseason average does very little to lead me personally to believe he’ll be the “difference maker”. And while our entire offense has been M.I.A. the last three postseasons, we lost more games on the mound than at the plate, none more apparent than last year against the Nats. And that is still something they have yet to address. We lost both Ryu and Maeda and even with them, we still don’t match up to the likes of Scherzer, Strasburg, Sanchez, Corbin and company. We have one ace (Buehler) compared to their three or four.
Kershaw may never get over his October woes, especially after those two bombs last year. Price has never been much more than a number three. Urias? Is he a starter? A long reliever? A short power reliever? Will LA ever make a decision on him? May / Goose / Stripling? All very young and very unproven. And that’s just the starters. Our pen has been a revolving door of no names and our closer needs at least a three run lead to get three outs without blowing the save.On paper we will score a lot of runs and win 100 + games. But they all go out the pooper come October and without pitching, we’re looking at another long, cold disappointing winter. Like I said before - glass half empty . . . GO DODGERS!!! Our starters' ERA was 3.11 last season, and the Nats' was 3.53. This season, you never know. I have confidence in our kids. May and Goose might fill out the rotation, with Gaterol and Gray waiting in the wings. And you never know, the Nats' aces might have an off-season or have injuries. But I also worry about Kershaw. We all know he's well past his prime, though still a solid #2 in the rotation. But serving up those homers on back to back pitches might have ruined his confidence, which I know he's worked on all spring and has beat himself up about. Of course, Kelly and Roberts didnt' help. And as for our bullpen, it had a 3.78 ERA, 4th in the bigs and 1st in the NL. And the Nats', believe it or not, were dead last in reliever ERA! You can bet their fans are worried about their bullpen. It just seems like our bullpen is lousy cos this is the era of the juiced up balls and bats and bringing in the fences. And Jansen is in Kershaw's boat. If there's one thing the Dodgers have always been known for at least since the early 50s is great rotations, and this coming season will be no exception. Again, it all looks great on paper. But in a short series, as we all witnessed, the Nats were not dependent so much on their pen and were able to utilize pretty much those four throughout their World Series run. NO WAY we get that out of our starters, as it is fairly likely both May & Goose (if either / both are even part of our starting five) will be on pitch counts and Daisy never saw a six or seven inning shut out he wouldn’t pull a starter from. That leads to excessive and over use of the pen and I think we all saw that against the Asterisks and Dread Lox. Maeda had pitched well but had nothing left in the tank by the end of both series. And neither did most of the rest of them, cheating notwithstanding. Maybe you’re right and the Nats end up paying the piper this year for last years title. But I’m not counting on it and I’d take those four guys over ours or any other teams come October as they have already proven pitching still rules in MLB. GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 12, 2020 16:45:16 GMT
It's pretty simple bro. The platoon metric thing is done with. That is why they have gone out and acquired Betts. No more reason to platoon Joc and Taylor in the leadoff spot. That's why even though the A's and Rays have also won a lot have failed to win the whole damn thing, same concept different place. You also have to agree that even though the team won other teams in the NL were watered down or not as good, look no further than our division. Well no even though the Asstros cheated if the Dodgers get Verlander instead who even though didn't get the wins pitched exceptionally well for them. Things like such I'm just not looking for a reason. I agree that in baseball sometimes you just lose. But last year was a freakin choke job. Has nothing to do with anything else. I agree that this is the most loaded team in the last 3 years. Glad management felt the heat and made a big move. We'll see if Betts can deliver away from Fenway and in post- season. If you disagree with the above then we'll just disagree. 100% proven wrong. Platoons absolutely work. And right now Joc still platoons with AJ. This s simple logic. If a guy can’t hit .200 against LHP then he sits down. If a guy can’t hit .200 against RHP then he sits down. your arguing against the most basic strategy in the history of baseball. The Nats platooned last year and won. The Red Sox platooned players in 2018 and won. The Astros platooned some in 2017, cheated and then won. Math never lies, the stats never lie. We can disagree all day long, the problem is that would make you wrong. Simple math my friend. You're making a mistake again by saying wrong. You are simply incorrect and I will show you that those teams did not incorporate a platoon like the Dodgers have with Freese, Kike, Taylor, Joc, Muncy etc. like you are saying. I did say in my bolded statement that while actual platoons work they have not produced a championship for the teams that are known to implement them regularly. 2017 Astros used the same lineup for all 7 games, feel free to look it up. 2018 Red Sox same lineup except for the adjustment of the DH which JD Martinez played in the outfield when they came to the Dodger Stadium. Kinsler played one game before being benched for stinking it up. Sandy Leon caught one game. Mitch Moreland played one game at 1B and Eduardo Nunez played one game. The lineup was exactly the same and none of those guys played in the same one game together. 2019 Nationals Cabrera played one game, Robles played one game and Dozier played in one game. The lineup exactly the same. Please tell us where did the Astros used a platoon and the Red Sox and Nationals please. Maybe during the season but when it mattered most they did not. You made a mistake with your math bulldog. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 12, 2020 16:47:16 GMT
Best team we have EVER had top to bottom and you guys are ripping it apart before we even start. Way too fucking negative for me.
We had the best team last year too. The best team loses often in this sport, if you can't understand that then you're just not getting it.
Baseball experts disagree with you completely, thankfully, not that that means anything really. The Nationals aren't even favored to win their own division, Lmao. Pure lunacy.
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Post by truedodger on Feb 12, 2020 16:51:46 GMT
@espnlosangeles Reliever Baez, Dodgers go to arbitration $500K apart. ------------------------- Bye, Petey? Why would that mean he gets cut? If the got to arbitration The arbitartor will rule on what he gets paid. End of story. Have you heard about the arbitration process? I've heard that the person representing the team dissects the player in order to have the arbitrator rule in the team's favor. $500K is nothing for the team. I'm positive Baez is not happy about being given the run around over 500K. I'm positive. |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 12, 2020 17:00:45 GMT
I’ve been reading along with the usual bulldog & TD back and forth and both have made and justified their points as usual. Betts may very well be the “missing link” in our title hopes. But I’m skeptical, at best that his impact will be that substantial. We were probably going to win the division again, with or without him. His .200 postseason average does very little to lead me personally to believe he’ll be the “difference maker”.
And while our entire offense has been M.I.A. the last three postseasons, we lost more games on the mound than at the plate, none more apparent than last year against the Nats. And that is still something they have yet to address.We lost both Ryu and Maeda and even with them, we still don’t match up to the likes of Scherzer, Strasburg, Sanchez, Corbin and company. We have one ace (Buehler) compared to their three or four. Kershaw may never get over his October woes, especially after those two bombs last year. Price has never been much more than a number three. Urias? Is he a starter? A long reliever? A short power reliever? Will LA ever make a decision on him? May / Goose / Stripling? All very young and very unproven. And that’s just the starters. Our pen has been a revolving door of no names and our closer needs at least a three run lead to get three outs without blowing the save. On paper we will score a lot of runs and win 100 + games. But they all go out the pooper come October and without pitching, we’re looking at another long, cold disappointing winter. Like I said before - glass half empty . . . GO DODGERS!!! I love the trade. Friendman made out like a bandit in my opinion. But, bulldog is failing to acknowledge your points. I don't know why. Sure the team will win a lot and score a lot and there is still time to get that ace, maybe, but these questions need to be addressed because the Yankees look really good and I don't think it would be a cake walk. |
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