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Post by robec on Feb 11, 2020 1:14:01 GMT
When are the teams required to be down to the 40 man roster and 26 man roster?
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Post by jrgreene6 on Feb 11, 2020 4:17:16 GMT
White and Garlick designated for assignment. No great losses there.
GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 15:55:02 GMT
We MUST lock him up after he files as a FA. It would be a crime for him to be just a rental, our first true leadoff hitter since Steve Sax. I would be totally shocked if this happened and look for Betts to be the one year rental of the 2020 season. We’ve already seen Friedman and company balk at multi-year deals for three of the best in the game over the last two seasons. No reason in the world to believe that is going to change for Mookie, even if he singlehandedly transforms these guys into World Champs in 2020, which is also highly unlikely. He may or may not have any impact whatsoever. But he ain’t gettin’ no 10 - 12 year deal out of the Dodgers. Bank on that. GO DODGERS!!!
Have to disagree with this one. Friedman has already indicated that that is EXACTLY what he wants to do. For me there is no reason to believe otherwise.
And he did offer Cole 8 years and $300 miill so I wouldn't say he balked at that multi-year deal. Cole just wanted to be a Yankee.
I 100% think signing Betts will be a priority. There is not a lot of money on the books going forward after this year and close to nothing after 2021. They can certainly afford him and the money has to go to someone. I would say the odds are well over 50% that they sign Betts long term. I have no doubt about that.
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 15:55:40 GMT
When are the teams required to be down to the 40 man roster and 26 man roster? 40 man is now.
26 man is opening day.
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 16:00:45 GMT
C'mon JR, get excited!!! You sound so negative about this for some reason, of course he will have an impact. He is one of the top 5, maybe top 3 players in the game right now. This is the best, most impressive Dodger roster on paper in the history of the franchise. That goes back over 130 years. To have 2 of the top 5 players in the game at he same time? Wow. I'm excited, jump on board!!  |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 17:01:43 GMT
C'mon JR, get excited!!! You sound so negative about this for some reason, of course he will have an impact. He is one of the top 5, maybe top 3 players in the game right now. This is the best, most impressive Dodger roster on paper in the history of the franchise. That goes back over 130 years. To have 2 of the top 5 players in the game at he same time? Wow. I'm excited, jump on board!! I agree, on paper the lineup looks stacked if everyone meets their career averages and if Smith keeps growing and Lux matches expectation they should score a lot. Kind of like those Indians teams with Lofton, Belle, Manny, Alomar Jr., Baerga, Vizquel, Thome etc. I think Manny used to hit like 7th LOL! Anyway as far as Betts resigning I don't think he gets the 12 years that he is looking for from the team. Maybe an offer similar to the one Harper was offered high annual average shorter years or the one Kershaw got of huge money at the time with some opt- outs for him and the team. I'm sure they'll wine and dine and awe this guy as much as they can. If he helps us win the damn thing and walks I'm cool with it. We were able to bring on this guy because the team doesn't have any of those albatross contracts attached. I rather keep flexibility and go get these star guys when possible than be tied down and not be able to acquire such talent. We will need to pay Cody and Walker etc too so we'll see. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 17:28:01 GMT
It's a waste of time to talk about it right now because all anyone is doing is guessing at what might be offered or what he will really want.
All that matters to me is that he is here and I am certain that their intention will be to try and keep him. Those facts have both been confirmed.
Dodgers Rumors: Mookie Betts Trade Completed With ‘Every Intention’ To Re-Sign Him In Free Agency
"Once it became evident the Boston Red Sox were committed to a Mookie Betts trade, the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Diego Padres emerged as the two most likely suitors. Of course, the Dodgers had been linked to Betts for several weeks this offseason.
Soon after speculation L.A. began to separate from the Padres in trade talks, a deal was completed for the All-Star outfielder. The Dodgers reportedly are not only poised to acquire Betts but David Price as well.
While Price remains under contract for three more years, Betts is due to become a free agent after the 2020 season. He reportedly rejected multiple contract extension offers from the Red Sox last year.
According to David Vassegh, the Dodgers intend on being aggressive in re-signing Betts once he reaches free agency, via AM 570 L.A. Sports:
“Mookie Betts is a free agent at the end of the year. The Dodgers have every intention of trying to work something out with him longterm.”
In Betts the Dodgers have added a four-time All-Star, four-time Gold Glover, three-time Silver Slugger and 2018 American League MVP. He is coming off another stellar season in which he batted .295/.391/.524 with 40 doubles, 29 home runs, 135 runs scored and 80 RBI in 150 games.
The 27-year-old additionally is a stellar outfielder, who can play center field and right field, giving the Dodgers flexibility with respect to Cody Bellinger. The reigning National League MVP began the 2019 season in right field, played some first base, and finished as the everyday center fielder.
By trading Joc Pederson to the L.A. Angels, and Kenta Maeda to the Minnesota Twins the Dodgers are still in position to remain below the luxury tax threshold for the 2020 season. That could be a factor when the Dodgers work to sign Betts to presumably what will be a long-term contract.
Free agency hasn’t been particularly kind to L.A. over recent years, as president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman missed out on Bryce Harper and Gerrit Cole, among others.
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 18:01:54 GMT
It's a waste of time to talk about it right now because all anyone is doing is guessing at what might be offered or what he will really want. All that matters to me is that he is here and I am certain that their intention will be to try and keep him. Those facts have both been confirmed. We speculate often times. It gives us something to talk about. Sometimes some of us nail it sometimes we don't. It's a time passer. And, of course, the team's every intention will be to keep the guy. I don't doubt it. Just as I don't doubt their intention to winning the damn thing by making this move. But, we've seen how they operate in the past. I don't doubt that they will try to keep him but it's another thing to actually meet his demands. Everyone of us has had the intention and tried to keep that woman but sometimes it's not so, everyone tries to be a good son, a good father, etc. but sometimes it ain't so. I'm sure you get the picture. |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 18:05:51 GMT
BTW, I'm suspicious of Vassegh now. He was the one that reported that his sources in Boston told him that Mookie Betts was not going to be traded at all contrary to what was being speculated.
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 20:10:33 GMT
Dude you can’t critcize how they operate in the past. That’s not even sensible.
They have done nothing but try and win. Big deadline moves, solid, contending rosters from top to bottom every single year. There’s no team that has operated better in the last 5-7 years.
Most wins, most playoff wins, etc. over that time frame. they haven’t won it all yet, that doesn’t mean the FO hasn’t been the best or very near the best in the game since Friedman got here. I wouldn’t pick another team in MLB and say they have done a better job over that time frame.
We just made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise and I sense negativity from the fans. Blows me away.... and yes, this trade was bigger than the trade for Manny.
I’ll take exactly what we are doing and take our chances in the playoffs every single year. It will pay off, I’m certain of it.
And every indication this past week is that they will try and sign betts long term. There is no reason at all to think otherwise. Friedman tried t9 get a window to negotiate, many in the media close to the team and league have said the same thing. I don’t care if the example I gave was Vassegh. His comments echoed everything we have read and heard about this for the last week. I choose to be positive, it’s much more fun this way.
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 21:47:20 GMT
Dude you can’t critcize how they operate in the past. That’s not even sensible. They have done nothing but try and win. Big deadline moves, solid, contending rosters from top to bottom every single year. There’s no team that has operated better in the last 5-7 years. Most wins, most playoff wins, etc. over that time frame. they haven’t won it all yet, that doesn’t mean the FO hasn’t been the best or very near the best in the game since Friedman got here. I wouldn’t pick another team in MLB and say they have done a better job over that time frame. We just made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise and I sense negativity from the fans. Blows me away.... and yes, this trade was bigger than the trade for Manny. I’ll take exactly what we are doing and take our chances in the playoffs every single year. It will pay off, I’m certain of it. And every indication this past week is that they will try and sign betts long term. There is no reason at all to think otherwise. Friedman tried t9 get a window to negotiate, many in the media close to the team and league have said the same thing. I don’t care if the example I gave was Vassegh. His comments echoed everything we have read and heard about this for the last week. I choose to be positive, it’s much more fun this way. Listen that's your perspective and it's fine with me. I like a lot of the things this group has done but a lot of us and I'm talking about hundreds if not thousands to millions of informed fans have known that known that an experience manager has been a weakness, that regular season metrics don't apply in post- season at times, that they haven't gone over to acquire a key bat or starter that would drastically increase the chances, and that the bullpen has been a weakness and resources haven't been put into it. Have been successful, sure. Have they've gone all in over a few million of tax dollars, no. Maybe this wouldn't even be mentioned if the cheating Asstros get beat in 6 games in 2017 but unfortunately that's not the case and they made a big and much needed move after big media and public pressure finally reached it's height after a first round ouster last season here in Los Angeles. I respect your perspective not everyone shares in your opinion though. We'll disagree. |
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 21:57:10 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 22:30:11 GMT
Dude you can’t critcize how they operate in the past. That’s not even sensible. They have done nothing but try and win. Big deadline moves, solid, contending rosters from top to bottom every single year. There’s no team that has operated better in the last 5-7 years. Most wins, most playoff wins, etc. over that time frame. they haven’t won it all yet, that doesn’t mean the FO hasn’t been the best or very near the best in the game since Friedman got here. I wouldn’t pick another team in MLB and say they have done a better job over that time frame. We just made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise and I sense negativity from the fans. Blows me away.... and yes, this trade was bigger than the trade for Manny. I’ll take exactly what we are doing and take our chances in the playoffs every single year. It will pay off, I’m certain of it. And every indication this past week is that they will try and sign betts long term. There is no reason at all to think otherwise. Friedman tried t9 get a window to negotiate, many in the media close to the team and league have said the same thing. I don’t care if the example I gave was Vassegh. His comments echoed everything we have read and heard about this for the last week. I choose to be positive, it’s much more fun this way. Listen that's your perspective and it's fine with me. I like a lot of the things this group has done but a lot of us and I'm talking about hundreds if not thousands to millions of informed fans have known that known that an experience manager has been a weakness, that regular season metrics don't apply in post- season at times, that they haven't gone over to acquire a key bat or starter that would drastically increase the chances, and that the bullpen has been a weakness and resources haven't been put into it. Have been successful, sure. Have they've gone all in over a few million of tax dollars, no. Maybe this wouldn't even be mentioned if the cheating Asstros get beat in 6 games in 2017 but unfortunately that's not the case and they made a big and much needed move after big media and public pressure finally reached it's height after a first round ouster last season here in Los Angeles. I respect your perspective not everyone shares in your opinion though. We'll disagree. If the team’s metrics dont apply to the postseason then how is it that they have the most postseason wins in MLB over the last 7 years? maybe you’re trying just a little too hard to find a reason they didn’t win the World Series. Maybe, just maybe, it’s not all that complicated. I do agree Doc made some moves that backfired. He’s way above average though, he’s not the reason. sometimes in baseball you just lose. Blown lead in game 5 last year, 2nd best vs. Boston in 2018, game 5 cheating by the Astros in 2017, lose a tough series in 2016. It’s just baseball, one team wins and one team loses. The overall picture tells a different story. The team is absolutely LOADED, even more so than last year. It’s impossible to criticize that. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Feb 11, 2020 22:31:35 GMT
Pecota projections for 2020 are out and have Dodgers with 102.5 wins. No one else is at 100.
Team is LOADED, that is not an opinion it is a fact.
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Post by truedodger on Feb 11, 2020 23:52:33 GMT
Listen that's your perspective and it's fine with me. I like a lot of the things this group has done but a lot of us and I'm talking about hundreds if not thousands to millions of informed fans have known that known that an experience manager has been a weakness, that regular season metrics don't apply in post- season at times, that they haven't gone over to acquire a key bat or starter that would drastically increase the chances, and that the bullpen has been a weakness and resources haven't been put into it. Have been successful, sure. Have they've gone all in over a few million of tax dollars, no. Maybe this wouldn't even be mentioned if the cheating Asstros get beat in 6 games in 2017 but unfortunately that's not the case and they made a big and much needed move after big media and public pressure finally reached it's height after a first round ouster last season here in Los Angeles. I respect your perspective not everyone shares in your opinion though. We'll disagree. If the team’s metrics dont apply to the postseason then how is it that they have the most postseason wins in MLB over the last 7 years? maybe you’re trying just a little too hard to find a reason they didn’t win the World Series. Maybe, just maybe, it’s not all that complicated. I do agree Doc made some moves that backfired. He’s way above average though, he’s not the reason. sometimes in baseball you just lose. Blown lead in game 5 last year, 2nd best vs. Boston in 2018, game 5 cheating by the Astros in 2017, lose a tough series in 2016. It’s just baseball, one team wins and one team loses. The overall picture tells a different story. The team is absolutely LOADED, even more so than last year. It’s impossible to criticize that. It's pretty simple bro. The platoon metric thing is done with. That is why they have gone out and acquired Betts. No more reason to platoon Joc and Taylor in the leadoff spot. That's why even though the A's and Rays have also won a lot have failed to win the whole damn thing, same concept different place. You also have to agree that even though the team won other teams in the NL were watered down or not as good, look no further than our division. Well no even though the Asstros cheated if the Dodgers get Verlander instead who even though didn't get the wins pitched exceptionally well for them. Things like such I'm just not looking for a reason. I agree that in baseball sometimes you just lose. But last year was a freakin choke job. Has nothing to do with anything else. I agree that this is the most loaded team in the last 3 years. Glad management felt the heat and made a big move. We'll see if Betts can deliver away from Fenway and in post- season. If you disagree with the above then we'll just disagree. |
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