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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 13:58:52 GMT
Cody with a blast last night to put it away!!!
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Post by Bklyn_LA on Apr 22, 2018 19:23:14 GMT
Cody with a blast last night to put it away!!! Dude that pure Moon-Shot Monster Mash that Bellie hit like a Nike Zeus Missile it was, it would have cleared the 290 HIGH Wally's wall in the old Coliseum, I thought it was going to clear the stadium last night. The only ones I've seen hit further than that was Pops Stargell off Alan Foster and that thing cleared the park, and then Willie hit one off Andy Messersmith who we got in the Angels trade and Mike Piazza I don't remember who he hit his off of, when he was a Dodger! |
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Post by Bklyn_LA on Apr 22, 2018 19:31:11 GMT
Looks good, Send it. B.W. Did tell me what ship he was on I believe it was a destroyer, but I can't remember the name Thank you for doing this Kid You're welcome. I'm hoping BW turns up somewhere near the end of today's game, or early evening Pacific time. edit - It's a 5PM PDT game time, not 1PM start. Fingers Crossed!! 4 he and you.....Gracias Senor' |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Apr 23, 2018 3:35:46 GMT
Cody with a blast last night to put it away!!! Dude that pure Moon-Shot Monster Mash that Bellie hit like a Nike Zeus Missile it was, it would have cleared the 290 HIGH Wally's wall in the old Coliseum, I thought it was going to clear the stadium last night. The only ones I've seen hit further than that was Pops Stargell off Alan Foster and that thing cleared the park, and then Willie hit one off Andy Messersmith who we got in the Angels trade and Mike Piazza I don't remember who he hit his off of, when he was a Dodger! And since Stargell hit his two homers into the parking lot, only Piazza, Mark McGuire and Giancarlo Stanton have managed to do it. Stargell, however, was never accused of being on 'roids. Stanton managed it largely because nowadays the bats are made of maple and hickory wood, much harder than the turned ash bats of yesteryear, so he had that advantage. |
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Post by Bklyn_LA on Apr 23, 2018 6:27:37 GMT
Dude that pure Moon-Shot Monster Mash that Bellie hit like a Nike Zeus Missile it was, it would have cleared the 290 HIGH Wally's wall in the old Coliseum, I thought it was going to clear the stadium last night. The only ones I've seen hit further than that was Pops Stargell off Alan Foster and that thing cleared the park, and then Willie hit one off Andy Messersmith who we got in the Angels trade and Mike Piazza I don't remember who he hit his off of, when he was a Dodger! And since Stargell hit his two homers into the parking lot, only Piazza, Mark McGuire and Giancarlo Stanton have managed to do it. Stargell, however, was never accused of being on 'roids. Stanton managed it largely because nowadays the bats are made of maple and hickory wood, much harder than the turned ash bats of yesteryear, so he had that advantage. Thanks...That's right McGwire and Stanton and that was just a couple of years ago I knew I was for getting some one I was gonna say Jimmy Wynn who hit some long ball for the Dodgers in 1974 but the Toy Cannon Wynn did, hit one out of old Crossley field. Stargell, also use to swing a sledge hammer on deck too and no -Roids- so, it does put him a cut above the rest that was raw pure power and when Pops squared one up, it was squared to go. Those maple bats wasn't Barry Bonds one of the first to start using it? Hickory has been around for along time, Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott, Johnny Mize, Babe Ruth use a Hickory Stick like a 52 ounce one If I remember correctly... |
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Post by Blunashun on May 3, 2018 18:10:09 GMT
162 games now. A full season.
162 / 674 / 109 / 161 / 32 / 6 / 43 / 112 / 10 / .271 / .350 / .561 / .911 / 139 OPS+
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Post by 88bulldog on May 4, 2018 2:57:41 GMT
162 games now. A full season. 162 / 674 / 109 / 161 / 32 / 6 / 43 / 112 / 10 / .271 / .350 / .561 / .911 / 139 OPS+ That would be a great average.... 😳🤣 |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on May 4, 2018 12:09:30 GMT
162 games now. A full season. 162 / 674 / 109 / 161 / 32 / 6 / 43 / 112 / 10 / .271 / .350 / .561 / .911 / 139 OPS+ That would be a great average.... 😳🤣 112 RBIs is very impressive and hard to argue against, but Branch Rickey, for all his virtues, said that RBIs is the most misleading stat for a hitter. How he arrived at that conclusion is beyond me. It suggests the hitter is clutch, doesn't it? |
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Post by laker8la on May 4, 2018 15:35:11 GMT
That would be a great average.... 😳🤣 112 RBIs is very impressive and hard to argue against, but Branch Rickey, for all his virtues, said that RBIs is the most misleading stat for a hitter. How he arrived at that conclusion is beyond me. It suggests the hitter is clutch, doesn't it? Yes and no. You need to have runners on base when you come up to bat to get a lot of RBIs. But good power hitters generally find ways to get lots of RBIs. |
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Post by hunteralan on May 4, 2018 16:55:25 GMT
No, not necessarily. Putting aside the argument about whether there is any real way to even measure "clutch", RBI is most certainly not a strong correlative way to measure a hitters ability. Albert Pujols is most certainly not anything more than a league average hitter anymore, yet he's driven in 95+ runs in five of the last six seasons. Hitting behind Mike Trout will do that for you. And a guy like Freddie Freeman, who's been FAR superior a hitter to Pujols the past six seasons has cracked 100 RBI just once over than span.
Rickey arriving at that conclusion over sixty years ago was a mind way ahead of his time. He was correct before it was even correlated and factualized.
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Post by truedodger on May 4, 2018 18:22:51 GMT
No, not necessarily. Putting aside the argument about whether there is any real way to even measure "clutch", RBI is most certainly not a strong correlative way to measure a hitters ability. Albert Pujols is most certainly not anything more than a league average hitter anymore, yet he's driven in 95+ runs in five of the last six seasons. Hitting behind Mike Trout will do that for you. And a guy like Freddie Freeman, who's been FAR superior a hitter to Pujols the past six seasons has cracked 100 RBI just once over than span. Rickey arriving at that conclusion over sixty years ago was a mind way ahead of his time. He was correct before it was even correlated and factualized. I will agree with this. I wasn't a big believer in Adrian Gonzalez because of his RBI and because of his salary. I saw that he got a bunch of those in situations where the team was ahead or behind. But, not usually in games where the team was behind a run or when the team needed to a run to take the lead. |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 4, 2018 23:31:02 GMT
No, not necessarily. Putting aside the argument about whether there is any real way to even measure "clutch", RBI is most certainly not a strong correlative way to measure a hitters ability. Albert Pujols is most certainly not anything more than a league average hitter anymore, yet he's driven in 95+ runs in five of the last six seasons. Hitting behind Mike Trout will do that for you. And a guy like Freddie Freeman, who's been FAR superior a hitter to Pujols the past six seasons has cracked 100 RBI just once over than span. Rickey arriving at that conclusion over sixty years ago was a mind way ahead of his time. He was correct before it was even correlated and factualized. This is all true. Guys who hit 3, 4 or 5 will have more RBI chances. Obviously. there have been great RBI guys though, it's not a worthless stat IMO. |
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Post by hunteralan on May 7, 2018 17:05:52 GMT
I wasn't a big believer in Adrian Gonzalez because of his RBI and because of his salary. Then you were wrong. Adrian Gonzalez was one of the best run producers in the game for over a decade. Five All-Star selections, three Silver Slugger Awards, a career 130 OPS+ (ranked with the likes of Clemente, Winfield, Eddie Murray, Joe Morgan, Rod Carew, Jackie Robinson). And he added superior defense, winning four Gold Gloves. Gonzalez signed his $22M per contract extension at the age of 28 and following five seasons in which he had cemented himself as one of the top ten players in the game. It was market value. Actually it was seen as somewhat of a discount at the time considering his level of production. He earned that contract. You don't like it based solely on the last couple years he was injured and unproductive. If you were denigrating Gonzalez during the first five years of that contract, then you were without doubt wrong. ***I saw that he got a bunch of those in situations where the team was ahead or behind. But, not usually in games where the team was behind a run or when the team needed to a run to take the lead.*** You "saw"? So we're back to following our gut? There is so very much wrong with this opinion it's hardly worth discussing... It is your opinion that a player who drives in a run when his team is either 'ahead or behind', is not helping that team? And when exactly does a team 'need' a run? Only when that run gives them the lead? This is such a baseless and ridiculous argument. Gonzalez was a league leading run producer for YEARS. End of story. To besmirch him based on some subjective opinion is not only silly but completely unfounded. |
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Post by truedodger on May 8, 2018 14:20:36 GMT
I wasn't a big believer in Adrian Gonzalez because of his RBI and because of his salary. Then you were wrong. Adrian Gonzalez was one of the best run producers in the game for over a decade. Five All-Star selections, three Silver Slugger Awards, a career 130 OPS+ (ranked with the likes of Clemente, Winfield, Eddie Murray, Joe Morgan, Rod Carew, Jackie Robinson). And he added superior defense, winning four Gold Gloves. Gonzalez signed his $22M per contract extension at the age of 28 and following five seasons in which he had cemented himself as one of the top ten players in the game. It was market value. Actually it was seen as somewhat of a discount at the time considering his level of production. He earned that contract. You don't like it based solely on the last couple years he was injured and unproductive. If you were denigrating Gonzalez during the first five years of that contract, then you were without doubt wrong. ***I saw that he got a bunch of those in situations where the team was ahead or behind. But, not usually in games where the team was behind a run or when the team needed to a run to take the lead.*** You "saw"? So we're back to following our gut? There is so very much wrong with this opinion it's hardly worth discussing... It is your opinion that a player who drives in a run when his team is either 'ahead or behind', is not helping that team? And when exactly does a team 'need' a run? Only when that run gives them the lead? This is such a baseless and ridiculous argument. Gonzalez was a league leading run producer for YEARS. End of story. To besmirch him based on some subjective opinion is not only silly but completely unfounded. It's LAUGHABLE that you can't even accept me agreeing with you. I should have known not to do it...You need to be taught something here. If you are going to try to use accomplishments in your faulty replies then you need to be MADE AWARE that Pujols' accolades are better than those of Gonzalez, blatant contradiction, lol. Gonzalez: 2012- $21,000,000 2013- $21,000,000 2014- $21,000,000 2015- $21,857,000 2016- $21,857,000 2017- $22,357,000 2018- $22,357,000 *ONE gold glove, *ONE all- star, * ONE silver slugger I wasn't aware that there was a rule or that is a crime to watch games and formulate an opinion based on what one's eyes tell him. Total hypocrisy without bounds. Again I should have known better. And, I don't even care how you will spin it when you respond angrily  |
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Post by hunteralan on May 8, 2018 16:49:02 GMT
It's LAUGHABLE that you can't even accept me agreeing with you. I should have known not to do it...You need to be taught something here. If you are going to try to use accomplishments in your faulty replies then you need to be MADE AWARE that Pujols' accolades are better than those of Gonzalez... I said nothing about your agreeing with me. Frankly I could care less. Where there is fault is in your characterization of Gonzalez. One of those two players signed a 10 year / $240M contract at the age of 32 that will take him to his age 41 season and still has four years (this one included) and $114M remaining. The other one signed a 7 year / $154M contract at the age of 28 that will take him to his age 37 season and ends this season with $21.5M remaining. And since you are obviously unaware . . . since signing those deals, Gonzalez is actually the more accomplished player. Higher WAR. Better wOBA. Better OPS+. Talk about a faulty comparison. You don't see the vastly differing scenario's there? ***Gonzalez: 2012- $21,000,000 2013- $21,000,000 2014- $21,000,000 2015- $21,857,000 2016- $21,857,000 2017- $22,357,000 2018- $22,357,000 *ONE gold glove, *ONE all- star, * ONE silver slugger*** Since you want to go there... Pujols: 2012: $12M 2013: $16M 2014: $23M 2015: $24M 2016: $25M 2017: $26M 2018: $27M 2019: $28M 2020: $29M 2021: $30M *ZERO Gold Glove, *ONE All-Star, *ZERO Silver Slugger Who's more accomplished since signing their deal? Who's still owed over $100M for barely league average performance? And Gonzalez is 36 years old and his contract ends this season. Pujols is 38 and still has three additional years on his contract. ***Total hypocrisy without bounds.*** Yup. Same as it ever was. Yet, you're still here polluting the board anyway. |
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