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Post by truedodger on Jun 4, 2019 22:58:56 GMT
Actually I proved all your points wrong. Who on earth calls a home run in the 4th inning “meaningless”. Lmao!!! 😂🤣😳 LOL what a...You're spamming my thread with your nonsense, please get out.
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Post by 88bulldog on Jun 4, 2019 23:02:06 GMT
Not spamming anything, just challenging plain old fashioned silliness.
4th inning HRs “meaningless”!?!?
Lol. 😂🤣😃
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Post by truedodger on Jun 4, 2019 23:03:10 GMT
It's probably too late to turn him into a 1st baseman. Good point. However, the Dodgers' thinking might be, by the '21 season, to move Turner there, once our #1 draft pick, Kody Hoese, our #1 draft pick, is MLB ready. Mike Lowell, who was a pretty good 3B himself, predicts that Hoese will make the majors "sooner than later". So, our IF might be Turner/Lux/Seagar/Hoese. Let's keep close tabs on Hoese! BTW Lux is having a good season in AA.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Jun 4, 2019 23:25:34 GMT
Good point. However, the Dodgers' thinking might be, by the '21 season, to move Turner there, once our #1 draft pick, Kody Hoese, our #1 draft pick, is MLB ready. Mike Lowell, who was a pretty good 3B himself, predicts that Hoese will make the majors "sooner than later". So, our IF might be Turner/Lux/Seagar/Hoese. Let's keep close tabs on Hoese! BTW Lux is having a good season in AA. And he'll finish the season in AAA
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Post by Blunashun on Jun 4, 2019 23:29:19 GMT
BTW Lux is having a good season in AA. And he'll finish the season in AAA Bet he gets a September callup.
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Post by jeremyv98 on Jul 5, 2019 19:46:41 GMT
It happens quite often. Twins almost blew a 7-0 lead yesterday. Braves blew a 3-0 lead. Saturday: Brewers blew a 5-0 lead. Mets blew a 4-0 lead. Friday: Giants blew a 5-0 lead.
Thursday: Snakes blew a 3-0 lead. Rockies blew a 8-5 lead.
Wednesday: Rangers blew a 3-0 lead. White Sox blew a 7-1 lead. Mets blew a 3-0 lead. Mets blew a 8-3 lead. Tuesday: Cards blew a 3-0 lead. Red Soc blew a 3-0 lead. Royals blew a 3-0 lead. Astros blew a 6-3 lead. Angels blew a 4-1 lead. Monday: Indians blew a 3-0 lead. Twins blew a 4-0 lead.
Like I said, it happens almost every day.
Other teams don't concern at all. This is about Joc Pederson who plays for the Dodgers. So it doesn't happen almost everyday on the 41- 19 NL West Division leading team. During spring training on the other board me and you discussed Joc and Verdugo. You wanted Joc traded as quick as possible and I hadn't been impressed by what I had seen from Verdugo prior to the regular season. Has Joc changed your opinion at all or you still think he is worthless? Verdugo has definitely changed my opinion.
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Post by truedodger on Jul 6, 2019 15:52:54 GMT
Other teams don't concern at all. This is about Joc Pederson who plays for the Dodgers. So it doesn't happen almost everyday on the 41- 19 NL West Division leading team. During spring training on the other board me and you discussed Joc and Verdugo. You wanted Joc traded as quick as possible and I hadn't been impressed by what I had seen from Verdugo prior to the regular season. Has Joc changed your opinion at all or you still think he is worthless? Verdugo has definitely changed my opinion. Good to see you here jeremy and contrary to what you were saying you haven't been banned from this site, you see. As for the discussion we had in the spring like I told you, Verdugo doesn't need to have massive power to be productive. Dude does it with the glove and with the bat, if he hits he hits and that's it. Joc has some value playing 1st and more value in a trade that's it. As I type this Verdugo doubles in to the right center gap.
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Post by jeremyv98 on Jul 27, 2019 20:06:04 GMT
During spring training on the other board me and you discussed Joc and Verdugo. You wanted Joc traded as quick as possible and I hadn't been impressed by what I had seen from Verdugo prior to the regular season. Has Joc changed your opinion at all or you still think he is worthless? Verdugo has definitely changed my opinion. Good to see you here jeremy and contrary to what you were saying you haven't been banned from this site, you see. As for the discussion we had in the spring like I told you, Verdugo doesn't need to have massive power to be productive. Dude does it with the glove and with the bat, if he hits he hits and that's it. Joc has some value playing 1st and more value in a trade that's it. As I type this Verdugo doubles in to the right center gap. I have changed my opinion on Verdugo completely. The guy is a very good all around young outfielder who does have power. When he gets ahold of something it goes a long way. Unfortunately I wasn't wrong on Barnes. Joc has been very good in my opinion.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Jul 27, 2019 21:41:20 GMT
The thing I still don’t get is if they want to keep Joc’s bat in the lineup, why do they continue to push him playing first base? He just missed ANOTHER one hop throw after a great dive at third by Turner.
Bellinger is a natural 1B and superior to Joc and / or anyone else they have tried there, including Freese, Muncy and Beatty.
Verdugo has shown he has a pretty decent cannon and I’m betting he’d be just as good in RF as in LF.
Put Joc back in the outfield where he belongs with Pollock and Verdugo and Joc back on first where HE belongs.
It’s completely absurd that Doc and the AB (Analystics Bunch) cannot figure something as simple as this out.
GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by truedodger on Jul 28, 2019 17:43:30 GMT
Good to see you here jeremy and contrary to what you were saying you haven't been banned from this site, you see. As for the discussion we had in the spring like I told you, Verdugo doesn't need to have massive power to be productive. Dude does it with the glove and with the bat, if he hits he hits and that's it. Joc has some value playing 1st and more value in a trade that's it. As I type this Verdugo doubles in to the right center gap. I have changed my opinion on Verdugo completely. The guy is a very good all around young outfielder who does have power. When he gets ahold of something it goes a long way. Unfortunately I wasn't wrong on Barnes. Joc has been very good in my opinion. Verdugo has been fantastic! Joc has been adequate. Barnes, what happened to him. He probably needs a change to a new team. Dodgers are better this year then they were last. Addition by subtraction, Puig.
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Post by truedodger on Jul 28, 2019 17:47:54 GMT
The thing I still don’t get is if they want to keep Joc’s bat in the lineup, why do they continue to push him playing first base? He just missed ANOTHER one hop throw after a great dive at third by Turner. Bellinger is a natural 1B and superior to Joc and / or anyone else they have tried there, including Freese, Muncy and Beatty. Verdugo has shown he has a pretty decent cannon and I’m betting he’d be just as good in RF as in LF. Put Joc back in the outfield where he belongs with Pollock and Verdugo and Joc back on first where HE belongs. It’s completely absurd that Doc and the AB (Analystics Bunch) cannot figure something as simple as this out. GO DODGERS!!! To me it seems like they are show casing him at 1B. I don't really have an issue with it because with the team up so many games he is not costing us game after game there. He isn't the best defensively there but he's not a butcher either. I don't think it will matter in postseason because Muncy and Freese might be at 1B, surely.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Jul 28, 2019 18:20:50 GMT
The thing I still don’t get is if they want to keep Joc’s bat in the lineup, why do they continue to push him playing first base? He just missed ANOTHER one hop throw after a great dive at third by Turner. Bellinger is a natural 1B and superior to Joc and / or anyone else they have tried there, including Freese, Muncy and Beatty. Verdugo has shown he has a pretty decent cannon and I’m betting he’d be just as good in RF as in LF. Put Joc back in the outfield where he belongs with Pollock and Verdugo and Joc back on first where HE belongs. It’s completely absurd that Doc and the AB (Analystics Bunch) cannot figure something as simple as this out. GO DODGERS!!! To me it seems like they are show casing him at 1B. I don't really have an issue with it because with the team up so many games he is not costing us game after game there. He isn't the best defensively there but he's not a butcher either. I don't think it will matter in postseason because Muncy and Freese might be at 1B, surely. If he is trade bait, I don’t get putting him in a position he’s CLEARLY not comfortable playing and has not shown any signs of improving at, despite multiple games there. He’s a significantly better outfielder and whether he’s on the block or not, it’s makes ZERO sense to continue playing him at first in games which Bellinger is also playing. Doc’s PRIORITY should be to put the BEST team he has on the field, both offensively AND defensively. Cody -vs- Joc at 1B isn’t even a contest. It was completely unfair of LA to throw Joc into a new position mid-season, especially on the infield - a place he had NEVER in his career played. And I don’t get or buy the idea that they’re trying to “protect” Cody from injury. He’s probably more likely to strain or sprain something running in the OF than at first. Diving for balls? Again, even though the landing surface is softer, still much more likely in the OF. Running / jumping into fences or walls? See above. He could and should be part of what might be the best IF in the league in a few years. Why the knuckleheads can’t or refuse to see that is a HUGE mystery and IMHO even bigger mistake. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by truedodger on Jul 28, 2019 19:18:44 GMT
To me it seems like they are show casing him at 1B. I don't really have an issue with it because with the team up so many games he is not costing us game after game there. He isn't the best defensively there but he's not a butcher either. I don't think it will matter in postseason because Muncy and Freese might be at 1B, surely. If he is trade bait, I don’t get putting him in a position he’s CLEARLY not comfortable playing and has not shown any signs of improving at, despite multiple games there. He’s a significantly better outfielder and whether he’s on the block or not, it’s makes ZERO sense to continue playing him at first in games which Bellinger is also playing. Doc’s PRIORITY should be to put the BEST team he has on the field, both offensively AND defensively. Cody -vs- Joc at 1B isn’t even a contest. It was completely unfair of LA to throw Joc into a new position mid-season, especially on the infield - a place he had NEVER in his career played. And I don’t get or buy the idea that they’re trying to “protect” Cody from injury. He’s probably more likely to strain or sprain something running in the OF than at first. Diving for balls? Again, even though the landing surface is softer, still much more likely in the OF. Running / jumping into fences or walls? See above. He could and should be part of what might be the best IF in the league in a few years. Why the knuckleheads can’t or refuse to see that is a HUGE mystery and IMHO even bigger mistake. GO DODGERS!!! I get your points. The thing that I see is that Joc is the worst of the outfield defenders from Pollock, Verdugo, and Bellinger. Today would make sense to put Joc in LF and Beaty at 1st. I do think Joc is trade bait though.
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Post by Blunashun on Jul 28, 2019 19:46:40 GMT
The 'Mad Butcher' at first strikes again.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Jul 28, 2019 19:50:16 GMT
Joc has NO business playing first base and if their plan is to showcase him there for a possible trade, it’s going to be a huge failure, as we just saw on that throw home.
I don’t blame Joc, though. I put this solely on the shoulders of management who have shown time and again that they refuse to learn that you can’t put a square peg in a round hole.
There are some guys that can play just about anywhere on the field, if asked - utility guys like Taylor, Kiké, etc. Joc has clearly shown he’s not one of those.
He may not have cost them any games so far, but he certainly isn’t going to draw much interest if LA continues to play him at a position he clearly is uncomfortable and overmatched at.
GO DODGERS!!!
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