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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 19, 2019 4:09:47 GMT
Great - Sborz and his 9 ERA in the game. I’d have rather seen J on the mound.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 19, 2019 4:30:08 GMT
Looks like another loss snatched from the mouth of victory. Expecting two innings out of Sborz? Insanity defined.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Sept 19, 2019 4:59:25 GMT
Looks like another loss snatched from the mouth of victory. Expecting two innings out of Sborz? Insanity defined. GO DODGERS!!! Pack your bags Jansen, your address next spring will change.
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Post by truedodger on Sept 19, 2019 15:23:54 GMT
It comes as no surprise, at least to this fan and poster that the Vulture has struck again. Did he get hosed on the third strike to Choi? Absolutely. But get the eff over it and don’t serve up a floating meatball with a 1 - 2 count after already allowing a single, a stolen base and a walk in the inning. I’ve been saying it all year - the dude is done and should be removed from the closer role before he costs us another title this year. We all know Doc has an affinity for flirting with insanity. Will he be able to overcome that in October? Hope springs eternal . . . GO DODGERS!!! I'm going to say that I root for the Predator because obviously if he does well so does the team. But, I was ticked off but not surprised after the time I spent watching the game only for him to blow it again. I really hope this is just a bump and he overcomes it and regains form down the stretch and into the playoffs. I read a commentary by someone saying he stinks and has always stunk when it matters in the playoffs. I thought about it and responded by saying that indeed he has. It could be debated that he is the solely responsible for blowing the air out of the bubble and letting the Asstros beat us in 2017. That Marwin Gonzalez HR in the 9th, in game 1, I think, gave the Asstros all the life they needed to kicking our asses. He was supposed to be premier. Even though early his choke job was probably the biggest moment in the series.
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Post by truedodger on Sept 19, 2019 15:31:56 GMT
Another thing I want to say is that what is it with DDF II and all this experimenting. Geez Gonsolin has been fantastic starting and then he overthinks the shit brings him in as a reliever and is ineffective. Message to DDF II and the Geeks. The A's went with a bullpen game last year in the wildcard game and they lost bad. Don't try to reinvent the fucking wheel. If we need a starter for game 4 in post-season just give the damn start to Gonsolin who HAS LOOKED FANTASTIC STARTING. We have to act like a big market team and not these teams like the A's, Rays etc who need gimmicks to try to win. If we choke this year and don't win it DDF II should be canned. Enough with the division banners.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 19, 2019 19:21:08 GMT
I read somewhere on this board and I can’t for the life of me find the post about Mark Prior (bullpen coach) commenting on the Vulture to the effect that in some of his bullpen sessions and warm-ups the dude is “lights out”, while others he appears very mediocre and VERY hittable.
I’m guessing last night was the latter however, if Prior can spot this during warm-ups, would it not benefit both KJ & the team by informing DDF II of this BEFORE bringing him into a one or two run game?
Or does that just make too much sense?
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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 19, 2019 19:26:44 GMT
It comes as no surprise, at least to this fan and poster that the Vulture has struck again. Did he get hosed on the third strike to Choi? Absolutely. But get the eff over it and don’t serve up a floating meatball with a 1 - 2 count after already allowing a single, a stolen base and a walk in the inning. I’ve been saying it all year - the dude is done and should be removed from the closer role before he costs us another title this year. We all know Doc has an affinity for flirting with insanity. Will he be able to overcome that in October? Hope springs eternal . . . GO DODGERS!!! I'm going to say that I root for the Predator because obviously if he does well so does the team. But, I was ticked off but not surprised after the time I spent watching the game only for him to blow it again. I really hope this is just a bump and he overcomes it and regains form down the stretch and into the playoffs. I read a commentary by someone saying he stinks and has always stunk when it matters in the playoffs. I thought about it and responded by saying that indeed he has. It could be debated that he is the solely responsible for blowing the air out of the bubble and letting the Asstros beat us in 2017. That Marwin Gonzalez HR in the 9th, in game 1, I think, gave the Asstros all the life they needed to kicking our asses. He was supposed to be premier. Even though early his choke job was probably the biggest moment in the series. I’ve been preaching this for the last two seasons that the Vulture came away from that Astros series scarred and it continues to be a problem. He still has great stuff (at times), even with the drop in velocity. But Kersh has lost five or six mph on his fastball, too and he still has been effective and one of our best starters all year. The mentality it takes to play this game is as big of a factor as the actual talent players have. Kenley’s appears to be shot and I don’t see it returning any time soon, if ever. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by Blunashun on Sept 19, 2019 20:25:30 GMT
Team save percentage at 59%.
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Post by Blunashun on Sept 19, 2019 20:26:57 GMT
Dodgers' Kenley Jansen: Role as closer remains secure
Rotowire Sep 19, 2019
Jansen is in no danger of losing his job as the Dodgers' closer, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports.
Although Jansen blew his eighth save of the season in Wednesday's loss to Tampa Bay, manager Dave Roberts indicated after the game that he is "not entertaining" the thought of replacing the veteran closer. For what it's worth, both relievers below Jansen in the pecking order -- Pedro Baez and Joe Kelly -- have surrendered earned runs in pivotal situations over the past week. Prior to Wednesday's meltdown, Jansen had been pitching well this month, holding opponents to one run and giving up only two hits while racking up three saves in six September appearances.
Dodgers' Tony Gonsolin: Could pitch in relief in playoffs
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Gonsolin is being considered for a postseason bullpen role, J.P. Hoornstra of the Los Angeles Daily News reports.
Gonsolin was originally scheduled to start Wednesday's game against the Rays, but the Dodgers decided to bring him out of the bullpen instead in preparation for his possible postseason role. Gonsolin responded by allowing two runs on one hit in two innings and walking three batters while picking up a pair of strikeouts and was charged with a blown save. If the 25-year-old makes the postseason roster, he would most likely be used in a piggyback situation in a potential fourth game, as the Dodgers seem committed to forgoing a traditional starter should the NLDS stretch that far.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 19, 2019 20:57:14 GMT
Team save percentage at 59%. That’s simply unacceptable for a team this good and it looks like Doc is going to ride that horse of his right out of the dugout and into the sunset if he blows his third straight WS appearance. Three saves in six appearances does not win you too many titles. I wasn’t a huge fan of hiring Doc from the get-go, although he was a better choice than Captain Banana Hammock. He’s far too close to the same mold that brought us Torre and the original DDF. FAR too reliant on stats and books and analytics with little to zero decisions made on guts or instincts. I had a supervisor once who was given her position strictly based on her being a woman and ethnicity (Asian). She literally had NO IDEA what I or others under her, most of us with 10 - 20 years experience, did. All she had was a bunch of books and manuals to refer to. One report I completed was for an eight figure premium policy (yes - $10 mil plus for their worker’s compensation & liability policies). We’re talking one of the largest corporations in the world based right here in little old Cin City. The controller provided me with computerized detailed reports for all of their operations which I took home with me at his insistence. Took me the better part of a week to set up our internal program worksheets and enter the data into them. When I turned the report in, she immediately pulled it and questioned where the numbers came from, why they weren’t verified and on and on and on. She insisted I re-contact the controller and prepare him that I was going to need a bunch of garbage that I actually didn’t and likely spend the better part of a week at THEIR offices. When I advised I wasn’t going to do that, she advised that “the books” said it should be done that way. My response was “the books aren’t always right”. If I’d have followed her instructions, the first call that controller would have made would have been to his agent advising him to move the policies and their $10 mil premium to another insurance company. I had the sense & balls to go over her head and present the report and my position to my manager and her boss. It was sent through and processed later that same day. I wish someone could convince Doc that the “books” aren’t always right. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Sept 20, 2019 12:29:29 GMT
Dodgers' Kenley Jansen: Role as closer remains secure Rotowire Sep 19, 2019 Jansen is in no danger of losing his job as the Dodgers' closer, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports. Although Jansen blew his eighth save of the season in Wednesday's loss to Tampa Bay, manager Dave Roberts indicated after the game that he is "not entertaining" the thought of replacing the veteran closer. For what it's worth, both relievers below Jansen in the pecking order -- Pedro Baez and Joe Kelly -- have surrendered earned runs in pivotal situations over the past week. Prior to Wednesday's meltdown, Jansen had been pitching well this month, holding opponents to one run and giving up only two hits while racking up three saves in six September appearances. 9 homers allowed in 59 IP is far too many. 8 blown saves is unacceptable. A 3.81 ERA is tolerable for a starter but sacrilidge for a closer. I'd tolerate 3 blown saves, so we should have 103 wins by now. His velocity is down and his pitches don't move much. Sad, but he's washed up. To see vintage Kenley only occasionally is'nt enough. He's washed up.
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Post by 88bulldog on Sept 20, 2019 14:56:50 GMT
Jansen should have done better. The guy got totally screwed though. He had Choi struck out, blue couldn't pull the trigger. Next guy pops out, game should have been over.
Whether the pitch to Choi was a strike or not wasn't even debatable.
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Post by truedodger on Sept 20, 2019 15:32:17 GMT
For all the analytical mumbo jumbo and progressive blah blah blah this administration and management group is being really stubborn about the Predator.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Sept 20, 2019 17:40:23 GMT
Jansen should have done better. The guy got totally screwed though. He had Choi struck out, blue couldn't pull the trigger. Next guy pops out, game should have been over. Whether the pitch to Choi was a strike or not wasn't even debatable. Completely agree with you on that missed call, but that’s when he should have reached down deep and blew Choi away. Instead, he served him a lollipop that Choi blasted which led to the eventual tie. After getting the lead off hitter, he gives up a single and a walk as well. I know the guy isn’t and can’t be perfect each and every time out, but we’ve seen this movie FAR too many times this and even last year. The worst thing is, a LOT of these hits are coming when he is either ahead or WAY ahead (0 - 2, 1 - 2) in the count and for whatever reason, he cannot “close” these guys out. Giving up hits and long balls to seasoned veterans and stars is one thing. Serving them up to scrub bench players hitting .200 is another, which he has done more than a few times this year. He will cost us another WS if he is our only choice and alternative to close. Doc is being just as stubborn on this as DDF was on a number of “book” items and it might end up costing him his job. Yes - Kelly & Baez have also surrendered runs lately as Doc stated. But how many were in a ninth inning, two run lead closer role? And if any of them were, their opportunities to close have been minute compared to those afforded to Jansen. If and when the next opportunity arises, ALL options for closer should be considered, including the above, Maeda and anyone else that can get the ball over the plate without it ending up in the bleachers. Hell - J STILL owns a zero point zero ERA! 😝 GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by truedodger on Sept 20, 2019 17:56:16 GMT
Completely agree with you on that missed call, but that’s when he should have reached down deep and blew Choi away. Instead, he served him a lollipop that Choi blasted which led to the eventual tie. After getting the lead off hitter, he gives up a single and a walk as well. I know the guy isn’t and can’t be perfect each and every time out, but we’ve seen this movie FAR too many times this and even last year. The worst thing is, a LOT of these hits are coming when he is either ahead or WAY ahead (0 - 2, 1 - 2) in the count and for whatever reason, he cannot “close” these guys out. Giving up hits and long balls to seasoned veterans and stars is one thing. Serving them up to scrub bench players hitting .200 is another, which he has done more than a few times this year. He will cost us another WS if he is our only choice and alternative to close. Doc is being just as stubborn on this as DDF was on a number of “book” items and it might end up costing him his job. Yes - Kelly & Baez have also surrendered runs lately as Doc stated. But how many were in a ninth inning, two run lead closer role? And if any of them were, their opportunities to close have been minute compared to those afforded to Jansen. If and when the next opportunity arises, ALL options for closer should be considered, including the above, Maeda and anyone else that can get the ball over the plate without it ending up in the bleachers. Hell - J STILL owns a zero point zero ERA! 😝 GO DODGERS!!! Very good points! Kenley is no longer the 4 out closer he was in 2017. Heck and I think he might not be able to close on back to back nights anymore either. If he stays as closer there are going to be some very intense 9th innings for the team in post- season. I think it's very important that they figure out who the second closer might be. And please don't use Maeda only for 1 out or 2 let him get all 3, I totally think he can do it.
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