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Post by dking on May 2, 2018 1:50:10 GMT
personally I feel the upgrades need to be made in the pitching. so if they want to spend machado type money it should be for pitchers
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 2:33:18 GMT
" Under no circumstances do I think the Dodgers should trade Walker Buehler to get him! "
Think about that for a second. And think about what you would want in a trade if Machado was on your team....
Try to be realistic....
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Post by speedcity on May 2, 2018 3:25:53 GMT
personally I feel the upgrades need to be made in the pitching. so if they want to spend machado type money it should be for pitchers I said it at the time and I wish it would have happened........I wanted Verlander over Darvish. I wonder how different things would have looked if we would have made that move. Why? At the time Darvish was pitching better, and Verlander didn’t have this great post season track record; he was hit or miss (more miss then hit), and he had pitched poorly in both of the World Series he appeared in. Why were you so confident this would be the first WS he didn’t suck in? |
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Post by Bklyn_LA on May 2, 2018 4:34:46 GMT
That's the part I have trouble digesting too. I know no one likes surgery, but if Seager had the procedure in November he would be good to go, assuming a 5 to 6 mouth recoup rehab period. Easy to say now. The idea is to avoid surgery when possible. It's not the first option like some want to think. And it wouldn't matter if he did it in November. He would still likely miss the whole year. 5 to 6 months after TJS is not realistic. And he said he was ok, until this past weekend. Said Seager, "I was pretty good through spring, and pretty good through the beginning, but then -- like I said -- this weekend I had a few bad throws that really irritated me. "In the physical sense, it hurt, had some numbness, and it was time to go get it looked at."Yes Yes, as hindsight is 20-20 and no one, "sane" wants to go under the knife if they can avoid it! Maybe not, maybe so...as 5 to 6 months, would be more than possible, depending on the condition of the ligament (strain/tear), if they use this new "Primary Repair" procedure, where the UCL is not replaced, but healed using a porous "Suture Tape" with laced with collagen and internal brace that give immediate re-enforcement strength to the damaged ligament and help prevents future strains. There's a good chance that Seager's UCL is good enough shape for this! |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 14:12:49 GMT
Easy to say now. The idea is to avoid surgery when possible. It's not the first option like some want to think. And it wouldn't matter if he did it in November. He would still likely miss the whole year. 5 to 6 months after TJS is not realistic. And he said he was ok, until this past weekend. Said Seager, "I was pretty good through spring, and pretty good through the beginning, but then -- like I said -- this weekend I had a few bad throws that really irritated me. "In the physical sense, it hurt, had some numbness, and it was time to go get it looked at."Yes Yes, as hindsight is 20-20 and no one, "sane" wants to go under the knife if they can avoid it! Maybe not, maybe so...as 5 to 6 months, would be more than possible, depending on the condition of the ligament (strain/tear), if they use this new "Primary Repair" procedure, where the UCL is not replaced, but healed using a porous "Suture Tape" with laced with collagen and internal brace that give immediate re-enforcement strength to the damaged ligament and help prevents future strains. There's a good chance that Seager's UCL is good enough shape for this! Except the hope right now is that he is ready for spring training NEXT YEAR. That's 10 months away. A November surgery would have accomplished nothing in terms of this season unless they rushed him back in September.. It certainly wouldn't have reduced the recovery to 5-6 months as you suggested. |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 14:14:37 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 14:15:52 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 14:31:05 GMT
"Seager would undergo ligament-replacement surgery, a procedure that will rob the Dodgers of their two-time All-Star shortstop for the duration of 2018 and jeopardized his readiness for the start of 2019." www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-seager-20180430-story.html______________ Not seeing 5-6 month recovery anywhere. So apparently November surgery wouldn't have changed a thing... |
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Post by Bklyn_LA on May 2, 2018 15:29:32 GMT
"Seager would undergo ligament-replacement surgery, a procedure that will rob the Dodgers of their two-time All-Star shortstop for the duration of 2018 and jeopardized his readiness for the start of 2019." www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-seager-20180430-story.html______________ Not seeing 5-6 month recovery anywhere. So apparently November surgery wouldn't have changed a thing... That's because it is Standard TJ " Replacement" surgery, and NOT the " Primary Repair" procedure of the UCL. Seager's ligament sprain was in bad enough condition making it beyond the " Primary Repair" surgery's scope of operation, therefore eliminating that option in favor of TJ "Replacement""There was only one option for his sprained ulnar collateral ligament. Seager would undergo ligament-replacement" - Team Physician Dr.Neal ElAttrache
However, the stone is cast, and the deed is done. The only thing left to do is to hope that all goes well! |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 15:33:10 GMT
"Seager would undergo ligament-replacement surgery, a procedure that will rob the Dodgers of their two-time All-Star shortstop for the duration of 2018 and jeopardized his readiness for the start of 2019." www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-seager-20180430-story.html______________ Not seeing 5-6 month recovery anywhere. So apparently November surgery wouldn't have changed a thing... That's because it is Standard TJ " Replacement" surgery, and NOT the " Primary Repair" procedure of the UCL. Seager's ligament sprain was in bad enough condition making it beyond the " Primary Repair" surgery's scope of operation, therefore eliminating that option in favor of TJ "Replacement""There was only one option for his sprained ulnar collateral ligament. Seager would undergo ligament-replacement" - Team Physician Dr.Neal ElAttracheDude, what are you talking about? I just gave you 3 articles that said his targeted return is opening day next year.... You're making an assumption that he wouldn't need TJS last year. But that's what he's getting now, LOL. The time frame is 10-12 months, that's all I have read. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 15:36:16 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 15:38:23 GMT
That's nice. But that's not what they said Seager is doing. Corey's recovery is 10-12 months for TJS. |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 15:40:28 GMT
It's like saying Justin Turner's recovery for his wrist would be longer or shorter because knee surgery repairs have new technology. Lol.
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Post by Bklyn_LA on May 2, 2018 15:59:43 GMT
That's because it is Standard TJ " Replacement" surgery, and NOT the " Primary Repair" procedure of the UCL. Seager's ligament sprain was in bad enough condition making it beyond the " Primary Repair" surgery's scope of operation, therefore eliminating that option in favor of TJ "Replacement""There was only one option for his sprained ulnar collateral ligament. Seager would undergo ligament-replacement" - Team Physician Dr.Neal ElAttracheDude, what are you talking about? I just gave you 3 articles that said his targeted return is opening day next year.... You're making an assumption that he wouldn't need TJS last year. But that's what he's getting now, LOL. The time frame is 10-12 months, that's all I have read. What? No Assumption made here... Yes, I know traditional TJS takes a better part of a year, but this is a different procedure, one that takes less time recoup. However, it is a moot point now as Seager's UCL damage was significant, and beyond the Primary repair's procedures operational scope. At the time I mentioned this alternate procedure, I did not know the extent of Seager's ligament damage, which was significant enough to warrant total ligament replacement! And, that is all! |
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Post by 88bulldog on May 2, 2018 16:11:33 GMT
At the time I mentioned this alternate procedure, I did not know the extent of Seager's ligament damage, which was significant enough to warrant total ligament replacement!
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Yes, that's obvious. In other words his recovery is 10-12 months like I said, not 5-6.
Whether he got the surgery Friday or last November, he was still missing the season. That's all I'm saying...
We'll see how long it takes for them to make a trade. I sense that will happen soon.
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