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Post by Blunashun on Mar 14, 2020 4:29:23 GMT
With this pandemic threat hovering over us? Driving around, this place is a ghost town.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Mar 14, 2020 15:21:10 GMT
With this pandemic threat hovering over us? Driving around, this place is a ghost town. Well it's encouraging that the season will be delayed "at least two weeks". That's not very long and implies the virus could be destroyed or more likely controlled by then, but that might be wishful thinking. This thing is disrupting our lives like nothing else I"ve ever seen. However, proper nutrition and staying active are the best boosts to our immune systems, so lay off the Dodger dogs till this is over. Remember, that Spanish flu of 1918 only lasted a year. I saw a link on Facebook by a immunologist and it's very reassuring: This is the best medical advice I’ve read on corona 19 thus far!! Worth the read! I like this information about the corona virus: Marc Serota, MD immunologist, posted this on facebook. I think it is the clearest statement regarding Coronavirus I have seen. From an MD immunologist: I don't post a lot on facebook but I would like to give my perspective and context on the coronavirus outbreak. I hope I can be a more reputable source of perspective as a physician who specializes and is board certified in immunology (as well as pediatrics, allergy and dermatology). 1. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. "coronavirus" is not unique to this particular strain. Everyone reading this has likely had another different coronavirus infection. This particular strain has been named COVID-19. 2. Every upper respiratory virus has the potential to be lethal. Patients unfortunately die from many upper respiratory viral infections every year - most prominently the influenza virus. 30,000 people died from the influenza virus in 2019. The media didn't report each one. They have reported all 11 coronavirus deaths. Not telling us about the people lost but rather keeping a death "toll". Let me repeat that: -Coronavirus: 11 deaths (US in 2020), 3300 deaths (China in 2020). -Influenza: 30,000 deaths (US in 2019). *Influenza pandemic of 1918: 675,000! (US), 20-50 MILLION!! (worldwide) <---These people I think would have been in favor of receiving their annual flu vaccine. This is not meant to minimize any of these deaths but rather to give context and put some facts to the hysteria. 3. If you're healthy, there is no need to walk around wearing a mask. In addition to looking silly and most of the time wearing/taking them off wrong - which would actually make you more prone to acquiring an infection, they don't prevent you from getting sick. If you're actually sick stay away from people and then, sure, wear a mask so you aren't spreading respiratory droplets every time you cough/sneeze. In medicine we don't wear the masks you're buying and we wear other protective equipment - not just a silly looking mask you found on Amazon. When you see doctor's walking around the world wearing a mask then you should too. Until then, stop. 4. The symptoms are that of the flu. As doctors we don't test or know about most people with mild or moderate flu symptoms. That means most people will probably get it and just think they had the flu. That means you're only going to hear about the cases that get serious - not all the minor ones which will be the vast majority of cases. 5. When it is said that people who are older or have other medical conditions are most likely to die - that is equally true for EVERY upper respiratory virus. There is nothing unique about that to this particular virus. It does mean that the only cases we tend to know about are the severe ones. Once a case is severe it then makes sense to test the patient to find out what virus in particular they have. That means you can easily overestimate how severe or lethal the virus is because the only cases you end up knowing about are the serious ones. In summary 30,000 people died from the flu last year. Another 30,000 died in car accidents. I remember: H1N1 (2009), MERS (2012), Ebola (2014), Coronavirus (2020). Take it from me: The poor resident who stood at the door of the ER to triage people in 2009's swine flu (H1N1) hysteria. The over reaction is exponentially worse than the actual problem and in 2020 the over reactions I'm seeing are remarkable. In cold and flu season you'll probably get sick once or twice for about a week each. You might even get this particular coronavirus and most of you won't even know it. I've seen people raiding supermarkets, major meetings and sporting events getting cancelled and fear/racism towards Asian people. These reactions are totally unnecessary and panic based. Just do what you've always done during cold/flu season. Stay away from other people when you're sick, wash your hands and keep them away from your face, and only go to the ER if you feel your symptoms are more severe than a bad cold/flu (shortness of breath, high fever, etc.). And also realize you can't live on earth and not get viral illnesses from time to time. It's a part of nature. Please don't ask for antibiotics (those treat bacteria - not viruses). Thats like asking for a fire extinguisher when you're drowning. It can be a life saving device - but the wrong one for the problem at hand. Some doctor's don't want to fight about it when patients insist on antibiotics so they just prescribe them - but it doesn't mean its actually helping you and in some cases they can be harmful (resistance, infections, allergic reactions just to name a few). If you're one who asks for antibiotics every time you're sick, again, take it from me: ask for a flu shot each year and a doctor's note to stay home from work when you're sick instead. You will be much better off. The government is very proud that testing will be available to every American. Remember, we don't test for any respiratory virus other than the influenza virus routinely. The reason is thats the only virus that has a treatment (pill) you can take to shorten the duration of severity of the illness. I suspect if we start testing everyone with cold symptoms for coronavirus we're going to find lots of it. It's not going to change the recommendations to stay home and rest. And its not going to predict the small percentage of people who may develop more severe symptoms. Essentially whether someone has coronavirus 19 or some other cold/flu virus isn't going to matter to your doctor. What it will do is slam urgent cares, ER's and hospitals with every patient who has a cold so they can be tested. It is much more sensible to reserve testing for patients requiring hospitalization or more advanced treatments. Even that wouldn't change their management but would be more to confirm the diagnosis and to not waste time looking for other causes of the patients symptoms. In conclusion, yes there is a novel virus that our immune systems haven't seen yet so to get immune to it you will have to get infected - at least until a vaccine is developed to bypass the getting sick part and just jumping straight to immune. Most people's immune systems will do that effectively and be fine. A small percentage of unfortunate patients (primarily elderly, immune compromised etc.) will not be able to do that effectively and will need more advanced care. This is true of the cold/flu viruses we deal with every year. Follow normal cold/flu precautions and seek medical care if you feel your symptoms are severe. No need to get hysterical. These outbreaks can be instructive for overall knowledge of public health. In particular showing your immune system the uniform of a potential invader (virus) so that if it ever sees a soldier wearing that uniform it will immediately attack and neutralize it without you ever getting sick. That is a wonderful thing and probably the single biggest achievement in medicine throughout human history. That is what vaccines are. The benefit to risk ratio of them are off the charts in favor of vaccines. If viruses like coronavirus scare you, then stay up to date on your vaccines and your immune system will be running the latest software. If you still think you should be scared consider this: Doctors, nurses and other healthcare staff are going to hospitals every day. Crowded buildings with tons of sick people. They aren't walking around the halls of the hospitals wearing masks and they haven't stopped going to work. And they are all rolling their eyes at everyone else right now. Marc Serota, MD
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Post by Blunashun on Mar 14, 2020 21:00:30 GMT
Thanks. Can't remember the last time I got sick. Justin (my daughter's half-brother) got the flu about 20 years ago. He was staying with me, so I got it too. Maybe 1998-99? The last time I threw up from alcohol was 1991. That was easy to remember because my boss & I were drinking & smoking a dub after work while we watched the squad cars disappear. Then he asked if I could cover for Joe at 10:00 AM. Thanks a lot.
But it's said this flu is very contagious. Guess we'll see.
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Post by Blunashun on Mar 17, 2020 17:16:24 GMT
Among the position players, maybe the best Los Angeles Dodgers team in history & we might not ever see them all on the field together. What a shame.
Hope everyone here is okay. Happy St. Patrick's Day & I'm celebrating my birthday in solitude.
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Post by Blunashun on Mar 20, 2020 19:05:19 GMT
This quarantine is BORING! Talked to Koreman last night. He's had to scale back his activities too.
Don't know if I qualify for a gubment check. My company is larger than 500 people. They really have to be hurting bad. I can use the money too though.
Anyone hear of people catching this more than once? I brought that up to Koreman last night. As a kid, flu season was hell. John would get sick & give it to Dave. Dave would give it to me. I would then turn around & give it back to John, etc. Sometimes Mom would get it too.
Reasonably certain I can easily withstand one bout. What happens if it hits you again & you're still kinda weak?
Thinking about John too. He smokes two packs of cigarettes a day & almost died in December.
No baseball. No basketball. TV & the internet. That's it. Thank God for conservative conspiracy theorists to play with or I'd go mad. One was still calling this a hoax yesterday. I told him to have a backwoods jamboree of like minded conspiracy theorists. Share soda bottles, silverware, swap spit, have unprotected sex. When you're through, mail the government's 'free money' to a surviving milquetoast liberal. He just gave me a thumbs down. No rebuttal. What I figured...
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Post by Blunashun on Mar 20, 2020 21:18:34 GMT
Goodwill is closed now too. Just came from making a donation & their doors are locked.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Mar 20, 2020 22:50:58 GMT
This quarantine is BORING! Talked to Koreman last night. He's had to scale back his activities too. Don't know if I qualify for a gubment check. My company is larger than 500 people. They really have to be hurting bad. I can use the money too though. Anyone hear of people catching this more than once? I brought that up to Koreman last night. As a kid, flu season was hell. John would get sick & give it to Dave. Dave would give it to me. I would then turn around & give it back to John, etc. Sometimes Mom would get it too. Reasonably certain I can easily withstand one bout. What happens if it hits you again & you're still kinda weak? Thinking about John too. He smokes two packs of cigarettes a day & almost died in December. No baseball. No basketball. TV & the internet. That's it. Thank God for conservative conspiracy theorists to play with or I'd go mad. One was still calling this a hoax yesterday. I told him to have a backwoods jamboree of like minded conspiracy theorists. Share soda bottles, silverware, swap spit, have unprotected sex. When you're through, mail the government's 'free money' to a surviving milquetoast liberal. He just gave me a thumbs down. No rebuttal. What I figured... Pretty sure the wife and I both had it a month or so back. Basically was much like the usual flu. Fever, lack of appetite, sneezing, ass pees and lots of dry coughing. Lasted about three weeks. Both came out fine. Wouldn’t want to go thru it a second time, but pretty sure we’d both survive. The libtards and their tired rhetoric of “offending Asians” is REALLY getting old. A CHINESE scientist developed / manufactured this crap in a CHINESE lab, so yes - it IS a Chinese Virus. What they need to be asking themselves is with all the vile shit that is already out there, from AIDS to Parkinson’s to MS to Cancer to the simple flu, why did the Chinese find it necessary to CREATE another deadly disease if not for the expressed and deliberate use against its enemies? They did and they ARE!!! I had to get up at 5:30 am earlier this week just to get some breads from the local bakery (supermarkets had none) and four of five pounds of ground beef after overnight restocking. My wife is almost as sick of doing dishes every night as I am of cooking at home and not being able to enjoy our fav restaurants. I understand the reasoning, but also think the overreaction of shutting everything down is ridiculous. I moved around $6 large from one 401-k that I started last year at the recommendation of my tax accountant to one I already had opened decades ago. I was paying this new one a commission on every gain and it really wasn’t performing any better than my Vanguard account, which doesn’t charge any fees. That’s gone along with another six or seven large from the original Vanguard. All because some asshole decided things were going too well here in the U S of A and a good old fashioned plague was just the thing to take us down a notch or two. I say screw China and their Communist agenda. Reassemble Fat Man and Little Boy and let them feel the wrath of our answer to germ warfare. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Mar 21, 2020 4:35:49 GMT
This quarantine is BORING! Talked to Koreman last night. He's had to scale back his activities too. Don't know if I qualify for a gubment check. My company is larger than 500 people. They really have to be hurting bad. I can use the money too though. Anyone hear of people catching this more than once? I brought that up to Koreman last night. As a kid, flu season was hell. John would get sick & give it to Dave. Dave would give it to me. I would then turn around & give it back to John, etc. Sometimes Mom would get it too. Reasonably certain I can easily withstand one bout. What happens if it hits you again & you're still kinda weak? Thinking about John too. He smokes two packs of cigarettes a day & almost died in December. No baseball. No basketball. TV & the internet. That's it. Thank God for conservative conspiracy theorists to play with or I'd go mad. One was still calling this a hoax yesterday. I told him to have a backwoods jamboree of like minded conspiracy theorists. Share soda bottles, silverware, swap spit, have unprotected sex. When you're through, mail the government's 'free money' to a surviving milquetoast liberal. He just gave me a thumbs down. No rebuttal. What I figured... I've never heard of anyone catching any virus more than once in a year. Your body develops antibodies against the virus to fight it off. Back when I had the flu almost annually it was only once. I'm very confident I won't get it, cos I eat right and take suppliments including natural remedies and stay active, though I'm not tempting fate. I'm self-quarentining for the most part, though today I took a 3/4 mile walk. I'm not as active now, obviously. I didn't get close to anyone (social distancing). I did overhear a woman on her Iphone talking to someone and she said her doctor told her that the virus should peak here in Idaho in two weeks. That's encouraging for the rest of the nation, even NYC which has almost half of the cases. Here in Idaho, there are now 32 cases, but 19 of them are in Blaine County, about 100 miles from here. Just a week ago today, Idaho had its first case, leaving only West Virginia as the only state not infected (they are now). Anyhow, Governor Little has ordered residents of Blaine county to stay indoors. So strange, it's a rural county in a semi-rural state and they're so infected.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Mar 26, 2020 2:51:05 GMT
We need to face the very real possibility there won't be a 2020 season. This coronavirus has upended everyone's life, it seems. I had a dental appointment in 2 weeks that they had to postpone till May for one example. Idaho is one state that's been ordered to quartntine which means only "essential" businesses can stay open. I had plans to put this house in Idaho Falls up for sale in June and move to Mesa, AZ but that now might have to wait till next March. I mean, will there be a buyer? In good times, this place would be snapped up in a matter of days or weeks at a great price, and what about jobs in Mesa?
And of course, New York is a basket case. The state has about half of all cases and NYC has about a third. Govornor Cuomo keeps saying their hospitals are already overwhealmed and they're out of masks, repirators and other things and on ABC news tonite, they said there's a slight decrease in the daily increase of new cases. Will NYC heal from this calamity like the rest of the nation is doing? They're saying this will peak in three weeks, which doesn't sound very long from now, but what about those still sick afterwards? The rest of the nation as sharply reduced the daily percentage of new cases and even if the curve is flattened, NYC will need to heal before there's any baseball. Not good times.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Mar 28, 2020 7:01:06 GMT
On tonight’s episode of Lockup: Cincinnati: Extended Stay (Nat Geo channel) - our old friend Troy from WV makes his national television debut for his arrest here in Cin City after his threatening Facebook post.
This is gold, Jerry. GOLD!!!
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Post by truedodger on Mar 29, 2020 2:34:30 GMT
Good to read from ya'll folks. Hope you guys are staying healthy and it sounds like you jr have already been through it and are moving on, lucky. In reading the last post from 78 I think I heard them say last week that the peak would be in 45 days. Can't believe life has just stopped. Hope it passes soon. Anyone heard from bulldog New York is the epicenter of it here in the states.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Mar 29, 2020 3:22:30 GMT
Good to read from ya'll folks. Hope you guys are staying healthy and it sounds like you jr have already been through it and are moving on, lucky. In reading the last post from 78 I think I heard them say last week that the peak would be in 45 days. Can't believe life has just stopped. Hope it passes soon. Anyone heard from bulldog New York is the epicenter of it here in the states. Dog has been MIA since right around the time of the Mookie trade. A few of us here, myself included were voicing our concerns and our general negativity towards another year of managements “close, but no cigar” attempts at landing a big name free agent. And while I would agree the deals offered and accepted by Rendon and Cole were completely ridiculous, our big move (which Dog deemed the greatest in the history of the team) was for another outfielder one year rental that I have no doubt will move on in 2021 to a team that will give him the 10 - 12 year deal he is expected to command. Now the way things look, we may never even see Mookie play in Dodger Blue or if he does, it will likely be for a very limited season and who knows what they’ll do about the postseason. I just hope Manfred doesn’t implement and get approval for some type of expanded playoffs like his proposal earlier this year or worse. Baseball should not resort to the NBA or NHL format that allows close to half the teams in. We may not have had the NCAA 68 brackets this year, but let’s not try to make up for it by using that format for the MLB postseason. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by Blunashun on Mar 29, 2020 9:17:31 GMT
Wonder if MLB has some kind of insurance to at least partially cover this. Hell, insurance companies out here tried to get out of paying for earthquake damage on earthquake policies. Something like this could destroy them.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Mar 29, 2020 19:13:08 GMT
Wonder if MLB has some kind of insurance to at least partially cover this. Hell, insurance companies out here tried to get out of paying for earthquake damage on earthquake policies. Something like this could destroy them. Being in the industry for over 35 years now, most companies will have “Business Interruption” insurance however, in most cases it is fairly limited and I’m not sure if it is applicable in times of crisis, such as these. Isn’t this $2 trillion stimulus supposed to take care of small businesses? Oh - that’s right - less the $100 mil for the Kennedy Center, PBS and NPR and God only knows how many other millions or billions to other “special interests”. I don’t imagine it would even be available to professional sports teams. Good thing McCourt doesn’t still own the team. Poor leather face Jamie may have had to switch to Supercuts for her hair servicing. GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by truedodger on Apr 1, 2020 18:19:40 GMT
This is my take on this even though the media is freaking everyone out by saying that there won't be a season. I totally believe this season will be played, even if it's a shortened season. The COVID- 19 dies out in the warm & summer is upon us. Trump is dying to get the economy going again & no matter how much they plea people are irresponsible & not staying indoors now let alone when the parks open again. Once they get rolling in the summer look for younger crowds at the parks since this affects the elderly and the unhealthy the most.
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