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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:17:50 GMT
You and your embarrassing yourself act. smh Argue anything? I posted the old guys scores (Vijay the first post) to show that 50+ guys can still play, and it was for the benefit of posters on this site, I'm guessing half 50+ themselves, yourself included I believe. You for some reason interpreted it to mean I gave those guys a good chance to win. Yeah, right!! I posted probably you were right, the old guys were't gonna win, but to consider Tom Watson pretty much had the Open in his hands at age 60 & on the 72nd/final hole, but he blew it, so who knows. (What'd you think of Watson then, at age 60?? Pretty cool by me.) I wasn't looking for an argument, just stated facts. Said one of those old guys would be on the leaderboard Sunday (looks like Vijay or Freddy at this point). You ignored it though, and dug in. Why I wonder? Who's being argumentative? You post "The Open isn't the Masters, long ball players destroy Augusta, I should know that". I know all of that and a helluva lot more than that. The two easiest majors to win are the Open and the Masters. Both you can get away with hitting it sideways. Can't at the US Open or the PGA. I acknowledged that long drivers have an advantage (at any course), but that a number of shorter hitters have won over the years. Mentioned how Augusta is designed, putting, course knowledge. You basically ignore it all. You're hung up on the "long ball" thing. You come up with "stupid argument and I'll argue anything". It's you that's argumentative, bd. Of course the over 50 crowd has little to no chance win, but Watson proved it could happen, a 50+ can win a major. Jack won at 46. Miguel Angel Jimenez at 50 finished 4th at the Masters. I think it will happen, players stay in better shape, I'd think Tiger and Phil (47) will be playing great at 50. Yeah, the course was lengthened , looks like originally 6,799, now 7,435, or 636 addl yards, not a 1,000+. The shorter hitters have won and will to continue to, someone will get hot, and they all drive the ball long enough, some more than others. As you may know, the course was lengthed because of changes in technology affecting the ball and clubs allowing ALL PLAYERS to hit it longer. Spieth is #78 this week and #76 last year in driving distance on tour. Go Tiger!!! Go Finau!!! OMG! I'm embarrassed for you. You don't understand this game at all. i said those old guy have no chance, you disagreed with me. You are wrong. They CANNOT hit it far enough. Then you say spieth is a short hitter. Heaverages 298 with the driver. OMG? |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:21:40 GMT
"Of course the over 50 crowd has little to no chance win, but Watson proved it could happen, a 50+ can win a major. Jack won at 46. Miguel Angel Jimenez at 50 finished 4th at the Masters. I think it will happen, players stay in better shape, I'd think Tiger and Phil (47) will be playing great at 50."
But you didn't say that until now.
And there are no examples of 50 year old short ball hitters winning at Augusta.
Your British Open example was ridiculous, you just can't admit it.
Watson did not prove that he can compete at Augusta. No one has at that age. That's why I'm right.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:24:36 GMT
"Said one of those old guys would be on the leaderboard Sunday (looks like Vijay or Freddy at this point). You ignored it though, and dug in. Why I wonder? "
You didn't exactly say this. But I doubt it anyway.
And Vijay and Freddy can actually hit it pretty far, not even close to what someone like Spieth can but whatever. They won't be close though at the end in all likelihood.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:29:24 GMT
British open IS NOT Augusta, where the guys who hit it long destroy the course, especially the par 5s. You should know that. Length is an advantage on any course. Short-knockers win at Augusta, you should know that, Zach Johnson, Mike Weir. Contending at age 50-60 in a major happens on Augusta, Langer does it just about every year, Watson used to turn up. Putting and being on the right side of the hole is more the key to Augusta. Did you know that many/most greens at Augusta slope to the rear of the green, not the front like most courses. Augusta and the Open are the easiest majors to win, they are very similar in that. Much is dependent on course knowledge, not just pound it out there. This was your incorrect statement. EVERYONE knows that distance is most important at Augusta. Not placement. and your statement that the greens slope to the back actually destroys your opinion all by itself. It means the long hitters coming in with lofted clubs have a huge advantage. They can hold the greens. Those coming in with 5 and 6 irons cannot. Augusta is the easiest to win for those who hit the ball long. It's the most difficult for those who do not. 100% absolute truth. |
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Post by jrgreene6 on Apr 6, 2018 2:33:32 GMT
"Said one of those old guys would be on the leaderboard Sunday (looks like Vijay or Freddy at this point). You ignored it though, and dug in. Why I wonder? " You didn't exactly say this. But I doubt it anyway. And Vijay and Freddy can actually hit it pretty far, not even close to what someone like Spieth can but whatever. They won't be close though at the end in all likelihood. I heard one of the announcers say that from the clubhouse to the putting greens to walking the entire 18 holes encompassed just over seven miles. Talk about a long walk ruined! 😆😆 GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:51:08 GMT
This from 2009.. don't believe th scorecard.. On the scorecard, Augusta National was 10 yards shorter, with the only official change on the first hole. On the golf course, expanded tee boxes at Nos. 7 and 15, for example, allowed for the tee markers to be moved forward and the holes to be far less frightening. Augusta National is more than a quarter-mile longer than when Tiger Woods won his first Masters, but the length was necessary. It only needed a few years for players to catch up to the changes and overcome their intimidation. It needed a week of good weather, and for a few small adjustments on the tees and greens. _______ 1/4 mile is 1,320 yards?  That's more than 600 for sure... LOL!!! |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 2:52:38 GMT
Whats that old saying?......drive for show...putt for dough? You can't possibly believe that. Good putting can overcome a lot of things, but it can't overcome a long hitter and a good putter together. cmon man, you know that. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:15:40 GMT
John Daly should have won a few Masters then......accuracy in every type of shot wins the day above all else. C'mon man, you know that. LOL No..... youre playing a semantics game here, that doesn't work. Augusta favors big hitters, 50 year old short hitters DO NOT HAVE A PRAYER. I GUARANTEE IT. I especially liked your supposed proof by referencing Spieth when the guy AVERAGES almost three hundred yards a drive. LOL. and long hitters have no advantage at augusta as compared to the British open, lol there were so many good ones in here... |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:20:33 GMT
Tiger talking about his round. He didn't play the par 5s well, he said.
That's where great long hitters take advantage. And that's why this course favors them sooooo much.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:39:06 GMT
Don't start your stupid arguments with me numnuts.....if you can't have a conversation without making an embarassing a** out of yourself than you're not worth the effort. LOL LOL LOL. Did Spieth win the Masters today? I must have missed that. LOL. Francis makes more sense than you....you are a hoot. You're right. He didn't win the masters today. but you did use him as an example of a short hitter who does. he is NOT a short hitter. Seriously, are you ok??? |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:41:12 GMT
Me, huh? lol. Jordan Speith, Trevor Immelman, 10 years so what, Tom Kite, Olazabal, plenty of them. They've been saying that about Augusta forever, but short guys do win. That's the point. Length guarantees nothing. Just get there at the end, just like World Series. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:42:49 GMT
"Spieth is #78 this week and #76 last year in driving distance on tour."
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:47:50 GMT
Don't start your stupid arguments with me numnuts.....if you can't have a conversation without making an embarassing a** out of yourself than you're not worth the effort. LOL LOL LOL. Did Spieth win the Masters today? I must have missed that. LOL. Francis makes more sense than you....you are a hoot. That's ridiculously inaccurate and a complete lie. what you said was this, and I quoted it. ----puigout Avatar 47 minutes ago puigout said: John Daly should have won a few Masters then......accuracy in every type of shot wins the day above all else. C'mon man, you know that. LOL----- IF YOU WERE JOKING THEN I DIDNT GET IT, ( not screaming, trying to separate the posts.) |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:49:20 GMT
What you need to do is to respond to the post that was quoted to, not the one that was made 3 or 4 Posts earlier. Good tip for the board. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 6, 2018 3:58:36 GMT
Ok, fine.
The CK comes on, calls Spieth a short hitter, you respond to that and made a seemingly sarcastic comment to me about how daly would have one all of them of it's all about long hitters and put two and two together.
I'm sure now that you realize that hitting the ball 298 is not being a "short hitter".
My bad for that, if you were just joking.
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