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Post by laker8la on Apr 10, 2018 23:45:52 GMT
If he hasn't proven it yet, with his horrific spring training and his awful start to the season, plus his other opportunities to pitch in the majors, then I don't know what more you need to see. For me it's quite obvious that he just doesn't have it. He's 27 years old and other than one season in the minors, he hasn't really fared well at all. It's time to move on. He never should have made the major league team, IMO. In reality, he had one terrible outing. Other then that he tossed a scoreless inning, and in his second outing gave up 2 runs in his FIFTH inning. He might very well be terrible, but you’re jumping the gun a little bit. Fact of the matter is they should see what the have before cutting a reliever loose. I mean I didn’t see anybody here complaining about Morrow last year, even though he was called up because of an opt out clause in his deal. Sometimes guys like this work out, sometimes they don’t. I was speaking more of the overall career production, not just his three outings this season. He's been awful every time he has pitched in the majors and he was awful in spring training. Morrow was nails all season so that is not a great comparison, IMO. If Font would have been dominant in the preseason, I would totally be on board with the decision- but he wasn't. He didn't earn jack s$it. He was simply out of options, and I don't know why the Dodgers felt compelled to keep him for this sole reason. They could have DFA'ed him and he could have passed through waivers, and then he would be where he belongs, in the minor leagues as organizational depth. Or he could be someone else's problem if they claimed him. Either way, IMO the Dodgers would have a stronger bullpen with ANY OTHER option they had, whether it be Liberatore (who has a proven track record in the majors), Venditte (who can pitch to either side of the plate), Yimi, or Paredes (who also have proven track records.) How long do we let Font last at this rate before ultimately deciding to DFA him? At what point do we call a turd a turd? |
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 10, 2018 23:48:20 GMT
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Post by laker8la on Apr 10, 2018 23:53:46 GMT
Yeah I know he didn't start pitching for us until May 29th, I'm saying he was nails every time he pitched. He never struggled like Font, and he earned every inning he pitched. And this is a perfect example of you nitpicking everything I say. Get a new hobby. |
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 11, 2018 0:00:38 GMT
"I'm saying he was nails every time he pitched. He never struggled like Font, and he earned every inning he pitched." www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=morrobr01&t=p&year=2017July 4th, July 8th, July 16th, July 30th, August 8th, August 10th, & September 2nd. In fact, Morrow had a 4.09 ERA in July. "And this is a perfect example of you nitpicking everything I say. Get a new hobby." Hmmm... |
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Post by speedcity on Apr 11, 2018 0:28:35 GMT
In reality, he had one terrible outing. Other then that he tossed a scoreless inning, and in his second outing gave up 2 runs in his FIFTH inning. He might very well be terrible, but you’re jumping the gun a little bit. Fact of the matter is they should see what the have before cutting a reliever loose. I mean I didn’t see anybody here complaining about Morrow last year, even though he was called up because of an opt out clause in his deal. Sometimes guys like this work out, sometimes they don’t. I was speaking more of the overall career production, not just his three outings this season. He's been awful every time he has pitched in the majors and he was awful in spring training. Morrow was nails all season so that is not a great comparison, IMO. If Font would have been dominant in the preseason, I would totally be on board with the decision- but he wasn't. He didn't earn jack s$it. He was simply out of options, and I don't know why the Dodgers felt compelled to keep him for this sole reason. They could have DFA'ed him and he could have passed through waivers, and then he would be where he belongs, in the minor leagues as organizational depth. Or he could be someone else's problem if they claimed him. Either way, IMO the Dodgers would have a stronger bullpen with ANY OTHER option they had, whether it be Liberatore (who has a proven track record in the majors), Venditte (who can pitch to either side of the plate), Yimi, or Paredes (who also have proven track records.) How long do we let Font last at this rate before ultimately deciding to DFA him? At what point do we call a turd a turd? The reason I compared the two has nothing to do with performance. I compared them because both were situations where the FO was almost “forced” to have a guy on the roster or risk losing him. Morrow was great for us, but he got his shot because he had an opt out clause in his deal if he wasn’t activated by (I believe) June. It’s easy to forget, but At the time he wasn’t some sure thing, he was just another guy on a minor league deal that may or may not work out. Our bullpen was doing good when he was called up; imagine if the FO had said, “you know what, we’re good. Our bullpen is doing good there isn’t a need to call this guy up” and they just let him go. With relievers I think it’s always worth it to at least see what you have. It’s a volatile position; the guy that struggled the previous year, or was injured, or was a failed starter might just be a productive reliable reliever the next year. |
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 11, 2018 1:01:36 GMT
"The reason I compared the two has nothing to do with performance. I compared them because both were situations where the FO was almost “forced” to have a guy on the roster or risk losing him. Morrow was great for us, but he got his shot because he had an opt out clause in his deal if he wasn’t activated by (I believe) June. It’s easy to forget, but At the time he wasn’t some sure thing, he was just another guy on a minor league deal that may or may not work out. Our bullpen was doing good when he was called up; imagine if the FO had said, “you know what, we’re good. Our bullpen is doing good there isn’t a need to call this guy up” and they just let him go.
With relievers I think it’s always worth it to at least see what you have. It’s a volatile position; the guy that struggled the previous year, or was injured, or was a failed starter might just be a productive reliable reliever the next year."
Exactly.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 11, 2018 2:07:33 GMT
"They haven't even played one game in AAA yet, and already Toles should be up? Wait, wait he needs to shake off the rust bulldog?"
They haven't played one game in AAA yet? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
You just make it up as you go. hilarious!!!!!
Always misinformed, keep it up...
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 11, 2018 2:08:40 GMT
Baseball,is the wrong sport for you. try football. Youre not getting it. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 11, 2018 2:10:24 GMT
"I'm saying he was nails every time he pitched. He never struggled like Font, and he earned every inning he pitched." www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=morrobr01&t=p&year=2017July 4th, July 8th, July 16th, July 30th, August 8th, August 10th, & September 2nd. In fact, Morrow had a 4.09 ERA in July. "And this is a perfect example of you nitpicking everything I say. Get a new hobby." Hmmm... Hmmmm. this guy is a classic. One of those guys who makes it all up as he goes and hopes he is right.. did you hear Toles has not played a game in AAA yet? LOL!!!! |
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 11, 2018 2:49:01 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 11, 2018 2:59:54 GMT
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 11, 2018 3:01:12 GMT
AND Toles is batting .231. He must be HORRIBLE! |
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Post by laker8la on Apr 11, 2018 15:39:45 GMT
This is my bad! I checked a few websites and saw no stats for Toles, so I didn't think the AAA season had started. My mistake! You guys got me on that one. Congratulations. Again, I'm working during the day so I don't have time to dig as deep as I would like to find stuff. I know the AAA season starts a few weeks after the MLB season, so I thought it hadn't started yet. Three games is not enough to shake off the rust regardless. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 15:45:49 GMT
Kemp hitting pretty good, started last night against RH. Ride him.
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Post by laker8la on Apr 11, 2018 15:47:41 GMT
I was speaking more of the overall career production, not just his three outings this season. He's been awful every time he has pitched in the majors and he was awful in spring training. Morrow was nails all season so that is not a great comparison, IMO. If Font would have been dominant in the preseason, I would totally be on board with the decision- but he wasn't. He didn't earn jack s$it. He was simply out of options, and I don't know why the Dodgers felt compelled to keep him for this sole reason. They could have DFA'ed him and he could have passed through waivers, and then he would be where he belongs, in the minor leagues as organizational depth. Or he could be someone else's problem if they claimed him. Either way, IMO the Dodgers would have a stronger bullpen with ANY OTHER option they had, whether it be Liberatore (who has a proven track record in the majors), Venditte (who can pitch to either side of the plate), Yimi, or Paredes (who also have proven track records.) How long do we let Font last at this rate before ultimately deciding to DFA him? At what point do we call a turd a turd? The reason I compared the two has nothing to do with performance. I compared them because both were situations where the FO was almost “forced” to have a guy on the roster or risk losing him. Morrow was great for us, but he got his shot because he had an opt out clause in his deal if he wasn’t activated by (I believe) June. It’s easy to forget, but At the time he wasn’t some sure thing, he was just another guy on a minor league deal that may or may not work out. Our bullpen was doing good when he was called up; imagine if the FO had said, “you know what, we’re good. Our bullpen is doing good there isn’t a need to call this guy up” and they just let him go. With relievers I think it’s always worth it to at least see what you have. It’s a volatile position; the guy that struggled the previous year, or was injured, or was a failed starter might just be a productive reliable reliever the next year. I know what you are saying, and you make very valid points. However, I would like to say that their situations were different because Morrow was still returning from an injury if memory serves me correct and wasn't available to make the team out of spring training. The Dodgers put him on IR, no? And then didn't he return to the minors and dominate and earn his call up in May? If I am mistaken, let me know- I cannot fact check at the moment. My point is that Font has never earned anything. They kept him only because he was out of options. But I get your point, they wanted to see what they have in him instead of DFA-ing him. Maybe they tried to trade him and couldn't find any takers too, a la Thompson. Either way, and this is just my take, I think Font is hot garbage and only hurts the bullpen. Do you see any potential in him? |
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