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Post by Blunashun on Apr 22, 2018 0:28:44 GMT
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 22, 2018 2:22:51 GMT
Hilarious! He had the injury before the WBC which is when I made my statement.
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Exactly!!! And you still haven't proved that rolling grounders in the WBC made his injury worse.
You're still being foolish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 2:32:57 GMT
Interesting. Here's a quote from Brooks from bottom of first table your source regarding how velo measured. "Velocities are assumed from 55ft (rather than the gameday standard of 50ft) for increased realism." Whatever that means. Check out this Brooks graph from below link, the one at top of page showing Kersh's velo's all pitches from 2007 through 2018, looks by month. Kersh won CY in 2011, 2013, 2014. www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=477132&time=&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=04/21/2018&s_type=2There does seem to be a minor dip in FB and slider in 2018, small sample it may be. The space between the faster versus slower pitches seems to be decreasing as well, particularly slider vs FB , his CY years vs current/recent. Many interesting inferences/conclusions one could draw analyzing the data over the period shown.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 22, 2018 2:43:24 GMT
What's the point then?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 2:59:12 GMT
If that's addressed to me, one can draw their own conclusions looking at the data. What'd you come up with?
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 22, 2018 3:19:06 GMT
If that's addressed to me, one can draw their own conclusions looking at the data. What'd you come up with? You have this backwards, kinda sad. But go at it!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 3:52:43 GMT
No answer, huh. But always looking for a fight. smh
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Post by jeremyv98 on Apr 22, 2018 4:06:42 GMT
Hilarious! He had the injury before the WBC which is when I made my statement. ____ Exactly!!! And you still haven't proved that rolling grounders in the WBC made his injury worse. You're still being foolish. You had the thread erased where I did that remember. AGon said what I said. He had no business playing in the WBC all his trouble started with his elbow and should have ended there. He rushed back before he was ready to play in the WBC. He said he was thinking of the good of baseball when he participated but he shouldn't have. He said word for word what I did. Hopefully you learned something from that like make sure you are right before you make that big a deal about something.
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Post by jeremyv98 on Apr 22, 2018 4:17:40 GMT
So you agree with me on what I stated then. So is Kershaw worth more than the 30 plus million dollars he is worth now with the reduced stuff? Since you agree with me and what I have said is obvious then why don't you address Bulldog instead of me on his take his velocity drop means nothing? I know why. You don't want to get on his wrong side. I do not share the fear you have. He can't hurt you through the computer. There are pitchers that can adjust to losing stuff and decline at a slow rate. And I laugh at you saying I’m “afraid” when you are the whiny coward that is scared shitless to come out and say you don’t like the front office. Sack up and admit it for once. I agree there are pitchers that can lose velocity and still be effective. The question with Kershaw is how effective compared to his old version who was worth over 30 million bucks. I am afraid of no one on a computer. There are things I like about the front office and other things I don't. Saying that they take direction from the owners just like Colletti did from McCourt. I don't agree with any decision that is made like you and I am not afraid to disagree openly with Bulldog or you. Though I guess we agreed in this case because you said all I stated was common sense.
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Post by speedcity on Apr 22, 2018 4:50:28 GMT
There are pitchers that can adjust to losing stuff and decline at a slow rate. And I laugh at you saying I’m “afraid” when you are the whiny coward that is scared shitless to come out and say you don’t like the front office. Sack up and admit it for once. I agree there are pitchers that can lose velocity and still be effective. The question with Kershaw is how effective compared to his old version who was worth over 30 million bucks. I am afraid of no one on a computer. There are things I like about the front office and other things I don't. Saying that they take direction from the owners just like Colletti did from McCourt. I don't agree with any decision that is made like you and I am not afraid to disagree openly with Bulldog or you. Though I guess we agreed in this case because you said all I stated was common sense. I don’t agree with every decision the front office has made, I just don’t feel the need to whine to strangers about the things I disagree with. I can’t control what they do, so I just try to at least understand the rationale behind the moves. And I didn’t say you were afraid of any person, I said you are afraid to come out and say you don’t like the front office.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 22, 2018 11:31:22 GMT
1. I never had any thread erased.
2. Agon NEVER said the WBC caused his injury.
Those are the facts. End of story.
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Post by jeremyv98 on Apr 22, 2018 13:13:12 GMT
1. I never had any thread erased. 2. Agon NEVER said the WBC caused his injury. Those are the facts. End of story. I never said the WBC caused the injury. So since AGon said what I said he didn't either.
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Post by Blunashun on Apr 22, 2018 17:06:32 GMT
"I don't agree with any decision that is made"
Did you mean every decision that is made?
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 22, 2018 21:24:25 GMT
I never said the WBC caused the injury. So since AGon said what I said he didn't either.
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He didn't say what you said. Thankfully, he's not that thick headed.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 23, 2018 3:29:51 GMT
4-9 start and now last place in the NL West. Even the lowly Gnats and Pads are doing better than us. What an awful way to start the season... Do you see the Dodgers winning the World Series even after their start? The Dodgers are missing Turner but Arizona is also missing Jake Lamb. The NL West competition has definitely gotten better. The Dodgers matched their worst 13 game start since moving to LA. We are 10-10 now.
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