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Post by speedcity on May 1, 2018 4:39:39 GMT
Actually a coward comes out of hiding when things go wrong. They don't have an opinion of their own. That makes zero sense. I have been telling the three of you this since the offseason. You have been complaining since you signed up here. If you say the team is going to be bad or mediocre every year eventually you will be right. We may even miss the playoffs this year; contrary to what you think, that’s normal for even well run teams to occasionally do that. I know you take the Dodgers winning the division every year like they have under this ownership group for granted, but it isn’t normal.
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Post by jeremyv98 on May 1, 2018 4:46:53 GMT
That makes zero sense. I have been telling the three of you this since the offseason. You have been complaining since you signed up here. If you say the team is going to be bad or mediocre every year eventually you will be right. We may even miss the playoffs this year; contrary to what you think, that’s normal for even well run teams to occasionally do that. I know you take the Dodgers winning the division every year like they have under this ownership group for granted, but it isn’t normal. I have complained when the situation warranted it. Division titles is not supposedly the goal. Certainly wasn't a normal offseason for a team trying to win a W. S. The team was a two time defending division champ when the front office took over. Looking more and more like the participation ring ceremony we got to begin the season is as close as we will get this year. I will look at it as a missed opportunity if things don't change and you will make excuses.
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Post by speedcity on May 1, 2018 4:49:20 GMT
As I said before, I don’t agree with every decision the FO has made; I just don’t whine and complain to strangers when I disagree with something. But do I agree with most? Sure. This front office has won more games then any other group since they have taken over, so why shouldn’t they get the benefit of the doubt? It’s funny to me that you take so much pride in hating the FO and ownership when the FO has proven to be very good at their jobs and ownership has invested more money in to their franchise then any other group. But investing more money then literally every other ownership group just isn’t enough for a certain crybaby from the Bay Area because he was traumatized by his Giant fan coworkers, or whatever happened to you to become the fan you are. Never once heard you disagree with one decision made by the front office. As you know I have spent a lot of time on the board so I am pretty sure I would have seen it. I'm my own man and certainly not afraid to tell a computer tough guy like yourself if I hated the front office and ownership. As of now the position Brian Cashman took and I agreed with seems to be the one that was more logical which is why you find yourself slinging insults in my direction instead of watching the game. One thing I will point out but still doesn't mean I hate the front office is that the front office inherited a pretty good situation. I point this out to highlight the fact they can make wrong decisions like we saw during the offseason but again they were only listening to their boss. Their bosses that helped set up this great situation they walked in to? Those bosses? The ones that invest more money in to their team then any other group? Those guys? And like I said, I don’t come cry on here when ownership does something I don’t like. The only thing that I can remember in recent years that pissed me off to come on here and complain was when they traded for Rollins and stuck with him for damn near the entire season until finally calling up Seager in September. But yea, I agree with the vast majority of their moves. I like front offices that put winning teams on the field, You dislike that. Good for you.
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Post by speedcity on May 1, 2018 4:50:44 GMT
You have been complaining since you signed up here. If you say the team is going to be bad or mediocre every year eventually you will be right. We may even miss the playoffs this year; contrary to what you think, that’s normal for even well run teams to occasionally do that. I know you take the Dodgers winning the division every year like they have under this ownership group for granted, but it isn’t normal. I have complained when the situation warranted it. Division titles is not supposedly the goal. Certainly wasn't a normal offseason for a team trying to win a W. S. The team was a two time defending division champ when the front office took over. Looking more and more like the participation ring ceremony we got to begin the season is as close as we will get this year. I will look at it as a missed opportunity if things don't change and you will make excuses. No, I just realize that there is nothing a FO can do to guarantee a WS title. You don’t. Good for you.
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Post by Blunashun on May 1, 2018 5:09:11 GMT
Never once heard you disagree with one decision made by the front office. As you know I have spent a lot of time on the board so I am pretty sure I would have seen it. I'm my own man and certainly not afraid to tell a computer tough guy like yourself if I hated the front office and ownership. As of now the position Brian Cashman took and I agreed with seems to be the one that was more logical which is why you find yourself slinging insults in my direction instead of watching the game. One thing I will point out but still doesn't mean I hate the front office is that the front woffice inherited a pretty good situation. I point this out to highlight the fact they can make wrong decisions like we saw during the offseason but again they were only listening to their boss. Never once have I heard you say the front office made a good decision. Maybe a lesser of two evils decision. What threat? Brian Cashman & the Yankees have / had a lower payroll than the Dodgers. I know that isn't the first time you've heard it because I told you before. So now Mark Walter is cheap? Thank you, Frank McCourt, lackey, longing for the days of charity embezzlers.
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Post by 88bulldog on May 1, 2018 13:24:39 GMT
I have complained when the situation warranted it. Division titles is not supposedly the goal. Certainly wasn't a normal offseason for a team trying to win a W. S. The team was a two time defending division champ when the front office took over. Looking more and more like the participation ring ceremony we got to begin the season is as close as we will get this year. I will look at it as a missed opportunity if things don't change and you will make excuses. "I have complained when the situation warranted it. " A total and complete lie. All you have ever done on this board and the other is complain. At ALL times. "Certainly wasn't a normal offseason for a team trying to win a W. S." But it WAS pretty normal. You wanted to dismantle the team that won the most games in the league last year. Since you have given up on the season already then why not just pack it in and come back next year? Football is your type of sport anyway...
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Post by 88bulldog on May 1, 2018 13:29:14 GMT
They sat out the offseason for all intensive purposes. They claimed the team was so good they didn't need to improve the team. Then they turned around and said they expected a drop in velocity from the teams key pitchers. They knew Seager's elbow could require TJ. It is early but things are not looking good. The pitching drop off is most concerning to me. Will be tough to overcome the loss of Seager but if the pitching was as good as last year I believe the team could still win the division. Kershaw's drop off and Woods regression are very concerning for the rotation and I can't get a read on Jansen's issues one way or the other. Why were the purposes so "intensive"? Explain.... And the rest of your post is just baiting gibberish.... Football. That's the sport for you.
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Post by clyde714 on May 1, 2018 17:54:00 GMT
16.7% of the full-year data points show that this is not a fluke. This is a trend and will remain a trend unless things change. Well, the Dodger's Pythagorean has them at 15-12 (128 Runs, 116 Runs Allowed). So if the data holds they will move toward that level. Their run diff shows they are at about a 90 win level. They've had one problem, the pen. Fix that and the season will be very different and would have been different in the first 27 games. Not sure I trust the Pythagorean at this point... the formula says 15-12, but reality says 12-15. And I don't put much weight on run diff, we all know how that can skew your conclusions. The 12-15 record suggests a 72 win season. Not pretty. Without a doubt, the pen has been a problem. A major leaking sieve. The question isn't "Can they hold?" but rather "How many runs will they give up?". I would add that there have been other problems, too: - Taylor is not as aggressive with balls in the strikezone. He's letting a LOT of hittable pitches go by.
- Seager isn't as sharp, nor has he had power. Now we know why.
- Bellinger is still swinging for the moon. He'd be more valuable spraying the ball, hitting the gaps, driving in runs in smaller bunches. But to do that he needs to change his style and approach (a la the recent Pederson)
- Forsythe has just flatly failed to deliver. Automatic out.
- Puig has been MIA. Rather than being a reliable asset in the batting order, he's been more of a detriment. Pitchers aren't afraid of him, at all.
- Like Taylor, Barnes' hasn't been as aggressive. But I will give him credit for his OBP.
A most painful April, indeed.
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Post by puigout on May 1, 2018 17:54:06 GMT
Hey, Jeremy.....now you know how Custer felt.
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Post by laker8la on May 1, 2018 19:52:16 GMT
Well, the Dodger's Pythagorean has them at 15-12 (128 Runs, 116 Runs Allowed). So if the data holds they will move toward that level. Their run diff shows they are at about a 90 win level. They've had one problem, the pen. Fix that and the season will be very different and would have been different in the first 27 games. Not sure I trust the Pythagorean at this point... the formula says 15-12, but reality says 12-15. And I don't put much weight on run diff, we all know how that can skew your conclusions. The 12-15 record suggests a 72 win season. Not pretty. Without a doubt, the pen has been a problem. A major leaking sieve. The question isn't "Can they hold?" but rather "How many runs will they give up?". I would add that there have been other problems, too: - Taylor is not as aggressive with balls in the strikezone. He's letting a LOT of hittable pitches go by.
- Seager isn't as sharp, nor has he had power. Now we know why.
- Bellinger is still swinging for the moon. He'd be more valuable spraying the ball, hitting the gaps, driving in runs in smaller bunches. But to do that he needs to change his style and approach (a la the recent Pederson)
- Forsythe has just flatly failed to deliver. Automatic out.
- Puig has been MIA. Rather than being a reliable asset in the batting order, he's been more of a detriment. Pitchers aren't afraid of him, at all.
- Like Taylor, Barnes' hasn't been as aggressive. But I will give him credit for his OBP.
A most painful April, indeed.
So basically you're saying that things aren't working out for us like they did last season? That's what I was fearing when we stood pat in the off-season. Yes, we returned most of the key guys from last year's World Series team, but so much went right last season for us. It just hasn't so far this season, it's been the exact opposite. But, there is a silver lining, perhaps now the Dodgers will go get Machado. Turner will be back. Toles will be back soon. And perhaps management will bring up some different arms in the pen and get rid of some of these terrible options we have right now. Baez has proven yet again that he can't be trusted in close games. In other words, changes are coming and they will figure out how to get the pen right. Let's just hope we're not 15 games back by the time they get it situated. Arizona is good, so they're going to be tough to beat. But, the Dodgers should just focus on getting healthy and solidifying their bullpen and take it one game at a time. There's still lots of time to right the ship.
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Post by clyde714 on May 1, 2018 20:57:08 GMT
Not sure I trust the Pythagorean at this point... the formula says 15-12, but reality says 12-15. And I don't put much weight on run diff, we all know how that can skew your conclusions. The 12-15 record suggests a 72 win season. Not pretty. Without a doubt, the pen has been a problem. A major leaking sieve. The question isn't "Can they hold?" but rather "How many runs will they give up?". I would add that there have been other problems, too: - Taylor is not as aggressive with balls in the strikezone. He's letting a LOT of hittable pitches go by.
- Seager isn't as sharp, nor has he had power. Now we know why.
- Bellinger is still swinging for the moon. He'd be more valuable spraying the ball, hitting the gaps, driving in runs in smaller bunches. But to do that he needs to change his style and approach (a la the recent Pederson)
- Forsythe has just flatly failed to deliver. Automatic out.
- Puig has been MIA. Rather than being a reliable asset in the batting order, he's been more of a detriment. Pitchers aren't afraid of him, at all.
- Like Taylor, Barnes' hasn't been as aggressive. But I will give him credit for his OBP.
A most painful April, indeed.
So basically you're saying that things aren't working out for us like they did last season? That's what I was fearing when we stood pat in the off-season. Yes, we returned most of the key guys from last year's World Series team, but so much went right last season for us. It just hasn't so far this season, it's been the exact opposite. But, there is a silver lining, perhaps now the Dodgers will go get Machado. Turner will be back. Toles will be back soon. And perhaps management will bring up some different arms in the pen and get rid of some of these terrible options we have right now. Baez has proven yet again that he can't be trusted in close games. In other words, changes are coming and they will figure out how to get the pen right. Let's just hope we're not 15 games back by the time they get it situated. Arizona is good, so they're going to be tough to beat. But, the Dodgers should just focus on getting healthy and solidifying their bullpen and take it one game at a time. There's still lots of time to right the ship. Yep, that's what I'm saying. And I agree about the upcoming changes (eternally optimistic!). Roster-wise, getting Turner back will be great. Bringing Toles on board will be great. Rearranging the bullpen is not only a suggestion, it's a necessity. I also think some of the problems I mentioned above are easily reversible. Both Taylor and Barnes can become more aggressive; they're good contact hitters and just need to pounce on the first hittable pitch. Bellinger can take a page from the where-did-he-come-from-recently Pederson, and learn to go with pitches. Puig needs a little more quality time with Turner Ward, and he'll be OK. Kemp needs more playing time; not sure how that fits, just know he needs more AB's. And while we're at it, pray to God that Kike doesn't get hurt.
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Post by jeremyv98 on May 2, 2018 4:22:59 GMT
They sat out the offseason for all intensive purposes. They claimed the team was so good they didn't need to improve the team. Then they turned around and said they expected a drop in velocity from the teams key pitchers. They knew Seager's elbow could require TJ. It is early but things are not looking good. The pitching drop off is most concerning to me. Will be tough to overcome the loss of Seager but if the pitching was as good as last year I believe the team could still win the division. Kershaw's drop off and Woods regression are very concerning for the rotation and I can't get a read on Jansen's issues one way or the other. Why were the purposes so "intensive"? Explain.... And the rest of your post is just baiting gibberish.... Football. That's the sport for you. There you are. You gave me a hard time once again before you saw the result. Would have thought you'd have learned your lesson with the AGon situation. I told you, Speed, and I honestly don't know his new name right now the bullpen had issues. You found that hilarious and went over board and again made a fool of yourself. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you still won't admit you were incorrect. When I made my comments I said to begin the season. Eventually they will figure something out.
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Post by Blunashun on May 2, 2018 4:26:22 GMT
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Post by jeremyv98 on May 2, 2018 4:33:01 GMT
Not going to watch your video. Not even trying to fight with you really. Bulldog follows me around and gives me a hard time before he sees how things play out. I make a statement and it is the funniest thing he has ever heard and he chases me around for weeks. The bullpen was the latest episode. Sitting out the offseason is where it started this time. The team had known issues by the front office and ownership yet they sold people on the fact the team is so good they could lose quality talent not replace it but still complete the goal of winning the W. S. I will admit I still felt the team was good enough to win the division and I expected it before I found out what the front office and ownership knew that we didn't (extent of Seager's elbow injury and issues with pitchers from long postseason and short offseason).
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Post by Blunashun on May 2, 2018 4:38:21 GMT
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