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Post by Blunashun on Oct 28, 2018 19:41:25 GMT
The repeated spiking was bad enough. Him walking out of the batters box on a drive off the wall sealed it. Seeing as how keeping him could mean passing on other players who fill other needs, I would pass on bringing him back. Hopefully he becomes a World Series hero for us. I would still pass. Excellent pickup for the stretch drive. Later...
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 29, 2018 12:42:45 GMT
The repeated spiking was bad enough. Him walking out of the batters box on a drive off the wall sealed it. Seeing as how keeping him could mean passing on other players who fill other needs, I would pass on bringing him back. Hopefully he becomes a World Series hero for us. I would still pass. Excellent pickup for the stretch drive. Later... We won't have room for Machado anyhow with Seagar coming back stronger than ever.
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Post by 88bulldog on Oct 29, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
I pass. Spend the money elsewhere. And Corey will be back like 78 said.
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 29, 2018 15:58:39 GMT
The repeated spiking was bad enough. Him walking out of the batters box on a drive off the wall sealed it. Seeing as how keeping him could mean passing on other players who fill other needs, I would pass on bringing him back. Hopefully he becomes a World Series hero for us. I would still pass. Excellent pickup for the stretch drive. Later... We won't have room for Machado anyhow with Seagar coming back stronger than ever. We would if we traded Muncy, who has no real position anyway. Max's value must be at it's peak. Move Turner to first & put Machado at third. When is Seager due back? If he isn't ready for the start of the season, leave Manny at short & Turner at third. Bellinger could play first. I'm hoping they integrate Verdugo into the lineup. But I remain steadfast in that I don't want Machado back. Especially at the price he'll undoubtedly command.
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Post by 88bulldog on Oct 29, 2018 16:01:31 GMT
Would trade Muncy in a heart beat. He will never have higher value than now.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 29, 2018 16:09:24 GMT
We won't have room for Machado anyhow with Seagar coming back stronger than ever. We would if we traded Muncy, who has no real position anyway. Max's value must be at it's peak. Move Turner to first & put Machado at third. When is Seager due back? If he isn't ready for the start of the season, leave Manny at short & Turner at third. Bellinger could play first. I'm hoping they integrate Verdugo into the lineup. But I remain steadfast in that I don't want Machado back. Especially at the price he'll undoubtedly command. Seagar isn't a pitcher. They require much longer to heal from TJ surgery. He'll be back in March, you can bet you paycheck on it.
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 29, 2018 16:11:51 GMT
Seagar isn't a pitcher. They require much longer to heal from TJ surgery. He'll be back in March, you can bet you paycheck on it. That's not much.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 7, 2018 2:49:05 GMT
Phils don't seem afraid of Machado's baggage
By Todd Zolecki MLB.com @toddzolecki 7:50 PM EST
CARLSBAD, Calif. -- It seemed everybody wanted to ask Matt Klentak on Tuesday whether Manny Machado's postseason shenanigans -- from his arguably dirty play to his head-scratching comments that he will never be "Johnny Hustle" because running hard is not his "cup of tea" -- has removed himself from the Phillies' offseason wish list.
No way. Not yet.
"If you're trying to find the young free agent who's good at everything and a prince in the clubhouse, you're going to be looking for a long time," Klentak said at the GM Meetings, being careful not to speak specifically about Machado. "You're not always going to find somebody who checks off every box."
The Phillies are going to pursue free-agent superstars Bryce Harper and Machado this offseason. Many consider the Phillies a favorite to land one of them. But Klentak said he'll explore every available option to improve the team, which means the Phillies will take a hard look at left-hander Patrick Corbin and other high-profile free agents on the market. The Phils are expected to be active in the trade market, too.
Machado remains a fascinating topic because a player who once looked like a slam dunk now seems a bit risky, especially if he commands a contract in the neighborhood of $300 million.
A player who signs that type of deal immediately becomes the face of the franchise, good guy or not, leader or not, hustler or not.
"When we are evaluating players, we do our best to evaluate the total player, everything that player brings to the table," Klentak said. "Offense, defense, baserunning, their makeup and work ethic, their age, their health histories and a couple other things. We factor in all of those characteristics into how we evaluate the player. We make roster and contract decisions accordingly.
"It's unlikely you're going to find a player that's elite in every single one of those areas. If you do, he's probably not going to be a free agent. Sometimes you have to pick and choose what you're willing to bet on."
It would not be a mistake to bet big on Machado's immense talent. He is one of the game's best players playing a premium position and entering the prime of his career.
The shortstop is just 26, and he could get better.
But the rest of the Machado package muddies the waters. If Machado acts and talks like this now, what might he do and say with $300 million in his bank account?
"We have to factor in everything," Klentak said. "I'm being vague because I don't want to address that particular player, as you can tell. But it's something that we will incorporate into our decision-making process, whether it's a superstar player or a complementary player or whether it's extending an internal player, whether it's a Minor League free agent, whether it's hiring a staff member. We really do a thorough assessment of the individual. We're going to evaluate that, and the decision might be to not sign that person. But it really comes down to the balance of all the factors. It's not that complicated."
Machado's price tag could be a factor in how much the Phillies might overlook. Some have speculated that he could best Giancarlo Stanton's 13-year, $325 million deal signed in November 2014.
Would the Phillies ever make that long of a commitment?
"You have to take it on a case-by-case basis," Klentak said. "I was part of the Angels in December 2011, when we did a 10-year contract with Albert Pujols. That was not the only time in baseball history that somebody has signed a contract of that length. Really, you have to take it case by case. It's about the conditions that exist at that moment, both for that franchise and for that player. You know this, I don't like to operate in absolutes. I don't want to say we would never do this or never do that. You have to be open-minded and willing to make adjustments, but there are inherent risks in a contract of that length."
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 7, 2018 2:50:07 GMT
"I was part of the Angels in December 2011, when we did a 10-year contract with Albert Pujols. That was not the only time in baseball history that somebody has signed a contract of that length."
Food for thought...
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Post by truedodger on Nov 7, 2018 19:17:06 GMT
The repeated spiking was bad enough. Him walking out of the batters box on a drive off the wall sealed it. Seeing as how keeping him could mean passing on other players who fill other needs, I would pass on bringing him back. Hopefully he becomes a World Series hero for us. I would still pass. Excellent pickup for the stretch drive. Later... Totally agree.
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