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Post by Blunashun on Oct 22, 2018 23:51:21 GMT
Bill Buckner had a fine career. Borderline Hall of Fame material. What is he best remembered for though? Yup. Having a ball go through the wickets. He shouldn't have even been out there in his condition. Boston fans never let him forget he was yet another in a long line of goats for them. At that point in their 'storied' history, they were much like the Cubs. No need to pin it on any one individual. Your chokes were true team efforts & some were absolutely epic. Just epic. Win this one for Billy Bucks.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Oct 23, 2018 2:32:46 GMT
Bill Buckner had a fine career. Borderline Hall of Fame material. What is he best remembered for though? Yup. Having a ball go through the wickets. He shouldn't have even been out there in his condition. Boston fans never let him forget he was yet another in a long line of goats for them. At that point in their 'storied' history, they were much like the Cubs. No need to pin it on any one individual. Your chokes were true team efforts & some were absolutely epic. Just epic. Win this one for Billy Bucks. Yeah, I remember Billy Bucks. He was part of the crop of great kids out of the minors, along with Steve Garvey, Bill Russell, Ron Cey, Tom Pachiorek, Joe Ferguson, and Doyle Alexander. He started as a 1B and Garvey as the 3B, but Manny Mota in LF proved to be better as a pinch hitter, so Bucks was moved to LF, Garvey to 1B to get his bat in the lineup and Cey to 3B. Bucks was the ideal #2 hitter cos he was very tough to K and had a great OBP and could hit the ball anywhere he needed to. He was pretty good in LF and made many a diving catch. All that praise withstanding, I don't see him in the HOF, and it has nothing to do with that ball thru his wickets. He wasn't great at any one thing, just "pretty good".
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Post by Blunashun on Oct 23, 2018 3:35:42 GMT
Yeah, I remember Billy Bucks. He was part of the crop of great kids out of the minors, along with Steve Garvey, Bill Russell, Ron Cey, Tom Pachiorek, Joe Ferguson, and Doyle Alexander. He started as a 1B and Garvey as the 3B, but Manny Mota in LF proved to be better as a pinch hitter, so Bucks was moved to LF, Garvey to 1B to get his bat in the lineup and Cey to 3B. Bucks was the ideal #2 hitter cos he was very tough to K and had a great OBP and could hit the ball anywhere he needed to. He was pretty good in LF and made many a diving catch. All that praise withstanding, I don't see him in the HOF, and it has nothing to do with that ball thru his wickets. He wasn't great at any one thing, just "pretty good". You could say he was tough to strike out. 453 times in 10,037 plate appearances. Unheard of by today's standards. When I said Buckner was borderline Hall of Fame material I meant slightly south of the border. His cumulative stats are impressive though. 2,715 hits, 498 doubles, 1,208 RBI's. He won a batting title in 1980. But then I believe Al Oliver really does belong in the Hall. Joe Torre as a player too. The upshot is Boston fans vilified Buckner. They're an obnoxious lot. I spent six months listening to a Red Sox fan in the course of ONE game. Or so it seemed. He told me everything that was wrong with Los Angeles baseball. This was during the 2004 season. They didn't win their first World Series until that fall. So while he was telling me we sucked as baseball fans, his team hadn't won a title in 85 years & he was comfortable lecturing. That wasn't even the best part. www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200406020.shtmlVladimir Guerrero drove in 9 runs & Boston got beat 10-7. I still have the ticket stub.
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