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Post by globetrekker on Jun 4, 2018 12:43:43 GMT
Very True, but it would matter next year I guess.... I don't see a trade anyway, that would really surprise me... Yeah, it would surprise me too. The Dodgers are doing well to climb back into the thick of the race so I don't see it happening either. I forgot about the 10-and-5 rights. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Jun 4, 2018 13:03:41 GMT
Very True, but it would matter next year I guess.... I don't see a trade anyway, that would really surprise me... Yeah, it would surprise me too. The Dodgers are doing well to climb back into the thick of the race so I don't see it happening either. I forgot about the 10-and-5 rights. This problem is shaping up that it might work itself out. Kershaw is for sure on the downside of his career. With four stints on the DL in three years, it's getting obvious that there's something internally wrong with his back and with his velocity diminishing, his arm also. We'd need Dr. Mike Marshall to really explain what's going on to us laymen, but it seems he needs more than just rest. So far at least, the kids are allright, with Buehler, Stripling, Stewart and hopefully Santana. Ryu might be done for the season and Maeta and Hill are supposed to be back later this month. It's as if we're weaning ourselves off Kershaw. This July's trading activity will be very interesting. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Jun 4, 2018 14:03:03 GMT
Kershaw does appear to be on the downside, but his ERA is still 2.76 right now. He can still pitch, hopefully the back is ok real soon.
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Post by 88bulldog on Jun 4, 2018 15:47:03 GMT
Doc said it should be about a month.... Also this, lol:
"The thing about Clayton, the great thing about the great ones is they can do things that are essentially superhuman and find ways to grind and still find ways to be great," Roberts said. "Knowing Clayton for three years, no one works harder, no one prepares better. What can we do? I think that that's past my intelligence. 'Doc' is only my nickname. I don't have any other remedies."
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Post by speedcity on Jun 4, 2018 16:20:13 GMT
Yeah, it would surprise me too. The Dodgers are doing well to climb back into the thick of the race so I don't see it happening either. I forgot about the 10-and-5 rights. This problem is shaping up that it might work itself out. Kershaw is for sure on the downside of his career. With four stints on the DL in three years, it's getting obvious that there's something internally wrong with his back and with his velocity diminishing, his arm also. We'd need Dr. Mike Marshall to really explain what's going on to us laymen, but it seems he needs more than just rest. So far at least, the kids are allright, with Buehler, Stripling, Stewart and hopefully Santana. Ryu might be done for the season and Maeta and Hill are supposed to be back later this month. It's as if we're weaning ourselves off Kershaw. This July's trading activity will be very interesting. What do you think will be so interesting about it? |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Jun 4, 2018 18:49:01 GMT
This problem is shaping up that it might work itself out. Kershaw is for sure on the downside of his career. With four stints on the DL in three years, it's getting obvious that there's something internally wrong with his back and with his velocity diminishing, his arm also. We'd need Dr. Mike Marshall to really explain what's going on to us laymen, but it seems he needs more than just rest. So far at least, the kids are allright, with Buehler, Stripling, Stewart and hopefully Santana. Ryu might be done for the season and Maeta and Hill are supposed to be back later this month. It's as if we're weaning ourselves off Kershaw. This July's trading activity will be very interesting. What do you think will be so interesting about it? Considering my remarks about the rotation, it should be obvious that we might need a more experienced starter. |
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Post by speedcity on Jun 4, 2018 20:02:22 GMT
What do you think will be so interesting about it? Considering my remarks about the rotation, it should be obvious that we might need a more experienced starter. Ah, I see. The comments about weening off of Kershaw made it sound like you were thinking he would be traded. |
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Post by Blunashun on Jun 4, 2018 20:23:55 GMT
"Considering my remarks about the rotation, it should be obvious that we might need a more experienced starter."
We'll have Hill & Maeda back by then & maybe Ryu. That's a lot of experience.
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Post by Blunashun on Jun 7, 2018 22:44:30 GMT
June 7, 2018 1:10 pm
Dodgers' Clayton Kershaw: Plays catch Thursday
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Kershaw (back) played catch and began "moderate strength stuff" according to manager Dave Roberts, Andy McCullough of The Los Angeles Times reports.
Kershaw was recently diagnosed with a lower-back strain last weekend, and is expected to remain sidelined until July with this injury. Though he could wind up on the shelf until after the All-Star Game, the left-hander received a bit of good news as an MRI ruled out any sort of structural damage to the disks in his back. Expect another update on his status as he continues to rehab this latest setback.
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Jun 8, 2018 2:20:56 GMT
June 7, 2018 1:10 pm Dodgers' Clayton Kershaw: Plays catch Thursday by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire Kershaw (back) played catch and began "moderate strength stuff" according to manager Dave Roberts, Andy McCullough of The Los Angeles Times reports. Kershaw was recently diagnosed with a lower-back strain last weekend, and is expected to remain sidelined until July with this injury. Though he could wind up on the shelf until after the All-Star Game, the left-hander received a bit of good news as an MRI ruled out any sort of structural damage to the disks in his back. Expect another update on his status as he continues to rehab this latest setback. Share: Twitter Facebook Yeah, muscle strains are nothing to get alarmed about, though it means Clayton will be out awhile. You can't prevent them, nor fix them, but with rest. |
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Post by Blunashun on Jun 8, 2018 2:44:02 GMT
June 7, 2018 1:10 pm Dodgers' Clayton Kershaw: Plays catch Thursday by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire Kershaw (back) played catch and began "moderate strength stuff" according to manager Dave Roberts, Andy McCullough of The Los Angeles Times reports. Kershaw was recently diagnosed with a lower-back strain last weekend, and is expected to remain sidelined until July with this injury. Though he could wind up on the shelf until after the All-Star Game, the left-hander received a bit of good news as an MRI ruled out any sort of structural damage to the disks in his back. Expect another update on his status as he continues to rehab this latest setback. Share: Twitter Facebook Yeah, muscle strains are nothing to get alarmed about, though it means Clayton will be out awhile. You can't prevent them, nor fix them, but with rest. I'm not sure about all this strength & weight training pitchers do nowadays. That used to be taboo. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Jun 8, 2018 13:41:15 GMT
<<<I'm not sure about all this strength & weight training pitchers do nowadays. That used to be taboo. >>>
And before Tommy John got hurt, injuries to the pitchers were rare, so what's changed? Pitching 200+ innings was routine and complete games were common. Pitchers would even pitch full speed between starts and not get injured. It might be weightlifting, and/or pitchers lighting up the radar gun. I'd ask Dr. Mike Marshall.
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Post by Blunashun on Jun 8, 2018 14:30:58 GMT
<<<I'm not sure about all this strength & weight training pitchers do nowadays. That used to be taboo. >>> And before Tommy John got hurt, injuries to the pitchers were rare, so what's changed? Pitching 200+ innings was routine and complete games were common. Pitchers would even pitch full speed between starts and not get injured. It might be weightlifting, and/or pitchers lighting up the radar gun. I'd ask Dr. Mike Marshall. I think pitchers still got hurt. Dean Chance, Jim Maloney & Don Drysdale come to mind. They just disappeared. But I still think weight lifting was taboo for a reason. Speed guns too, like you said. Then there are stressful pitches like sliders. Steve Carlton always amazed me by his longevity with that pitch. He had a strange physical regimen. I think he would thrust his arm in a barrel of rice & move it around. Imagine how hard that would be. Freaking weirdo. |
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Post by truedodger on Jun 8, 2018 17:27:31 GMT
<<<I'm not sure about all this strength & weight training pitchers do nowadays. That used to be taboo. >>> And before Tommy John got hurt, injuries to the pitchers were rare, so what's changed? Pitching 200+ innings was routine and complete games were common. Pitchers would even pitch full speed between starts and not get injured. It might be weightlifting, and/or pitchers lighting up the radar gun. I'd ask Dr. Mike Marshall. I think pitchers still got hurt. Dean Chance, Jim Maloney & Don Drysdale come to mind. They just disappeared. But I still think weight lifting was taboo for a reason. Speed guns too, like you said. Then there are stressful pitches like sliders. Steve Carlton always amazed me by his longevity with that pitch. He had a strange physical regimen. I think he would thrust his arm in a barrel of rice & move it around. Imagine how hard that would be. Freaking weirdo. I heard Nolan Ryan was religious at doing that. |
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Post by truedodger on Jun 8, 2018 17:31:29 GMT
The best thing for the team is that (1A) Kershaw stays somewhat healthy pitches to a 3.00 ERA or below and finishes his contract productively and some other team gives him want he wants (1B) He stays somewhat healthy and then they trade him in the offseason.
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