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Post by 88bulldog on Nov 11, 2018 0:30:34 GMT
First of all, Hill is a number 2 or at worst a 3 on any team, he's that good.
And JR, Maddox was a 92/93 mph pitcher in his day, not less than 80. He was high 80s and effective at the end, that I give you.
Will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Nov 11, 2018 1:30:11 GMT
First of all, Hill is a number 2 or at worst a 3 on any team, he's that good. And JR, Maddox was a 92/93 mph pitcher in his day, not less than 80. He was high 80s and effective at the end, that I give you. Will be interesting to see what happens this offseason. I said Hill was a 3 on most and 2 on more than a few - we agree on that. Never knew Maddox ever threw that hard. Guess when he was with the Braves and they were winning year after year and everybody hated them, he was surrounded by so many other great hurlers that I didn’t see him throwing as hard as, say Smoltz or Glavine. Learn something new every day! GO DODGERS!!! |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 12, 2018 23:11:47 GMT
Ryu only player to accept qualifying offer
Six others reject one-year, $17.9 million deals
By Matt Kelly MLB.com @mattkellymlb
an hour ago
Dodgers left-hander Hyun-Jin Ryu took the qualifying offer -- a one-year contract worth $17.9 million (the mean salary of MLB's 125 highest-paid players). He will become only the sixth player among the 80 to receive offers since 2012 to accept. None of the other six free agents who received offers accepted them.
Teams had to extend prospective free agents a qualifying offer by Nov. 2. Those players had 10 days to either accept the offer or reject it in search of a multiyear deal out in the market, and the deadline for that decision was today at 5 p.m. ET.
In the six previous offseasons in which this system has been in place, only five (Brett Anderson, Jeremy Hellickson, Colby Rasmus, Neil Walker and Matt Wieters) of 73 players had accepted the qualifying offer.
The rules regarding Draft pick compensation for signing players who rejected QOs changed after the implementation of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement prior to the 2017 season, and the penalties for signing such players are less strict.
Here are the seven free agents who received the qualifying offer last week, and what Draft compensation their 2018 teams stand to receive if the players sign elsewhere.
Astros -- LHP Dallas Keuchel: Pick after Competitive Balance Round B
D-backs -- LHP Patrick Corbin and OF A.J. Pollock:
A) If either player signs for at least $50 million: Pick between 1st round and Competitive Balance Round A
B) If either player signs for less than $50 million: Pick after Competitive Balance Round B
Dodgers -- C Yasmani Grandal and LHP Hyun-Jin Ryu: Pick after Competitive Balance Round B
Ryu was the only player to accept the qualifying offer, so he'll stick with Los Angeles on a one-year deal.
Nationals -- OF Bryce Harper: Pick after Round 4
Red Sox -- RHP Craig Kimbrel: Pick after Round 4
Compensation for losing players who reject qualifying offers
The current Collective Bargaining Agreement rules state that if the team that loses the free agent is a revenue-sharing recipient, based on its revenues and market size, then the selection -- if and onlhe lost player signs for at least $50 million y if t-- will be awarded a pick between the first round and Competitive Balance Round A of the 2019 MLB Draft. If the player signs for less than $50 million, the compensation pick for those teams would come after Competitive Balance Round B, which follows the second round.
The following 16 teams currently qualify for these picks: A's, Braves, Brewers, D-backs, Indians, Mariners, Marlins, Orioles, Padres, Pirates, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Royals, Tigers and Twins.
If the team that loses the player does not receive revenue sharing and did not exceed the luxury-tax salary threshold the previous season, its compensatory pick will come after Competitive Balance Round B. The value of the player's contract doesn't matter in this case. The 12 clubs that fall into this category are the Angels, Astros, Blue Jays, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Mets, Phillies, Rangers, White Sox and Yankees.
If the team that loses the player went over the luxury-tax threshold, the compensation pick will be placed after the fourth round has been completed (as with the previous scenario, it doesn't matter how much the player signs for). The only two clubs that exceeded the threshold in 2018 are the Nationals and Red Sox.
Penalties for signing players who reject QOs
Any team that signs a player who has rejected a qualifying offer is subject to the loss of one or more Draft picks. However, a team's highest first-round pick is exempt from forfeiture, which is a big change that went into effect with the new CBA. Three tiers of Draft-pick forfeiture -- based on the financial status of the signing team -- are in place to serve as a penalty for signing a player who rejected a qualifying offer:
• A team that exceeded the luxury tax in the preceding season will lose its second- and fifth-highest selections in the following year's Draft, as well as $1 million from its international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period. If such a team signs multiple qualifying-offer free agents, it will forfeit its third- and sixth-highest remaining picks as well.
Teams that are in this group this offseason: Nationals, Red Sox
• A team that receives revenue-sharing money will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft. If it signs two such players, it will also forfeit its fourth-highest remaining pick.
Teams in this group: A's, Braves, Brewers, D-backs, Indians, Mariners, Marlins, Orioles, Padres, Pirates, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Royals, Tigers and Twins.
• A team that neither exceeded the luxury-tax threshold in the preceding season nor receives revenue sharing will lose its second-highest selection in the following year's Draft, as well as $500,000 from its international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period. If it signs two such players, it will also forfeit its third-highest remaining pick and an additional $500,000.
Teams in this group: Angels, Astros, Blue Jays, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Mets, Phillies, Rangers, White Sox and Yankees.
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Post by jrgreene6 on Nov 13, 2018 2:08:38 GMT
Yay for Ryu. No tears for Yasmine. When he was hot, he was both an offensive threat and an excellent backstop. Unfortunately, those periods were few and far between and never lasted more than a couple of weeks.
GO DODGERS!!!
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 13, 2018 4:19:44 GMT
Yay for Ryu. No tears for Yasmine. When he was hot, he was both an offensive threat and an excellent backstop. Unfortunately, those periods were few and far between and never lasted more than a couple of weeks. GO DODGERS!!! Let's just hope he's healthy. Remember Brett Anderson? |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 14, 2018 21:28:11 GMT
Could Realmuto replace Grandal in LA?
Nov. 13: When Yasmani Grandal declined the $17.9 million qualifying offer, he likely bid farewell to the Dodgers. That puts the club in position to look for catching depth to team with Austin Barnes -- or perhaps a major upgrade behind the plate, if it so chooses.
MLB Network insider Peter Gammons discussed the possibility of LA making a play for the highly sought-after J.T. Realmuto: "The team that I keep hearing about ... is the Dodgers."
As Gammons points out, top catching prospects Keibert Ruiz and Will Smith might be a year away from helping the Dodgers -- or even could be a part of a package sent to the Marlins for Realmuto. And given LA's outfield depth, the club also could consider parting with someone like Joc Pederson, who is just 26 years old and isn't due to hit free agency until after the 2020 season, or Alex Verdugo, an outfield prospect who is ready for The Show.
The late-season reemergence of lefty Julio Urias, who missed most of 2017-18 after shoulder surgery, gives an already deep Dodgers pitching staff even more options, especially after Clayton Kershaw re-signed and Hyun-Jin Ryu accepted the qualifying offer. In other words, LA's front office could have more freedom to deal from its surplus of young, controllable arms as a way to entice Miami.
Ross Stripling might make sense among those with big-league experience and success, while prospects like Dustin May and Mitchell White are high-upside youngsters near the top of a strong Dodgers system who could reach the Majors in the next year or so.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 14, 2018 21:52:54 GMT
I wouldn't give them Stripling if it can be helped. More like Maeda to be fair to him, if we truly have a surplus. Picture this lineup though... C - Realmuto - R 1B- Muncy - L / Freese - R 2B- Hernandez - R 3B- Turner - R SS- Seager - L LF- Taylor - R CF- Bellinger - L RF- Verdugo - L www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/realmjt01.shtml28 years old just before opening day. Hit .277-21-74 / .340 / .484. It wasn't a fluke season either. More like a steady progression. He isn't a free agent until 2021. |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 14, 2018 21:55:22 GMT
J.T. Realmuto c
1 year/$2.9M (2018)
lost arbitration with Miami 2/2/18 ($3.5M-$2.9M)
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 14, 2018 22:05:45 GMT
Kershaw - L
Buehler - R
Hill - L
Stripling - R
Urias - L
Wood can be used for long relief & as a backup starter. Ferguson is available for that role too. Santana as well, depending on his health.
We should have depth enough to absorb the loss of Kenta.
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 15, 2018 18:49:20 GMT
The Yankees are concerned about Manny Machado's attitude. That's gonna cost him some money.
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Post by 88bulldog on Nov 15, 2018 22:01:17 GMT
I wouldn't give them Stripling if it can be helped. More like Maeda to be fair to him, if we truly have a surplus. Picture this lineup though... C - Realmuto - R 1B- Muncy - L / Freese - R 2B- Hernandez - R 3B- Turner - R SS- Seager - L LF- Taylor - R CF- Bellinger - L RF- Verdugo - L www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/realmjt01.shtml28 years old just before opening day. Hit .277-21-74 / .340 / .484. It wasn't a fluke season either. More like a steady progression. He isn't a free agent until 2021. This article named a lot more than that. dodgersway.com/2018/11/13/dodgers-rumors-realmuto-radar/"A trade for Realmuto would be expensive, and likely cost the Dodgers a package like Caleb Ferguson, Will Smith, Gavin Lux, and Dustin May." Miami won't want money back, that's for certain. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Nov 15, 2018 22:03:00 GMT
This one makes more sense to me.. "Will Smith, who is the eight-best catching prospect on MLB Pipeline, is someone that the Dodgers can package the deal around. Package him with Dennis Santana (sixth-ranked in the organization) and Edwin Rios (13th-ranked in the organization) and the Marlins could have their highest bidder." lasportshub.com/2018/11/14/dodgers-rumors-jt-realmuto-dodger/ |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Nov 16, 2018 4:49:24 GMT
The Yankees are concerned about Manny Machado's attitude. That's gonna cost him some money. I recall Dave Winfield and Reggie Jackson also had attitudes, but that didn't stop the Yanks. |
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Post by 20DodgerMiracle24 on Nov 16, 2018 4:54:21 GMT
I wouldn't give them Stripling if it can be helped. More like Maeda to be fair to him, if we truly have a surplus. Picture this lineup though... C - Realmuto - R 1B- Muncy - L / Freese - R 2B- Hernandez - R 3B- Turner - R SS- Seager - L LF- Taylor - R CF- Bellinger - L RF- Verdugo - L www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/realmjt01.shtml28 years old just before opening day. Hit .277-21-74 / .340 / .484. It wasn't a fluke season either. More like a steady progression. He isn't a free agent until 2021. This article named a lot more than that. dodgersway.com/2018/11/13/dodgers-rumors-realmuto-radar/"A trade for Realmuto would be expensive, and likely cost the Dodgers a package like Caleb Ferguson, Will Smith, Gavin Lux, and Dustin May." Miami won't want money back, that's for certain. You'd think Realmuto was Mike Piazza or Johnny Bench. He's not THAT good. But then again, catchers have any intangible traits the stats just don't show, like how he relates with pitchers. I think he's our guy, though. |
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Post by Blunashun on Nov 16, 2018 5:00:51 GMT
The Yankees are concerned about Manny Machado's attitude. That's gonna cost him some money. I recall Dave Winfield and Reggie Jackson also had attitudes, but that didn't stop the Yanks. Is it Hank Steinbrenner now? Either way, he's not George. His stated goal was to get under the luxury tax. Very un-George like. If the Yankees are openly questioning Machado's attitude, that's leverage lost for Manny. There aren't a whole lot of teams with that kind of money to throw around. And even though Manny is still young, if he's looking for a 10 year deal it will probably have to be an AL club. That further reduces the market. |
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