Un-Presidential

I normally try to stay out of political discussions however, since this thread was already on the board, I thought I might take a moment to ask a few questions, as a good deal of the posters here live in the blue states of the western part of the country. First of all - I am not a Trump fan. I find him boorish, indecisive, uninformed and generally overwhelmed in his position as the leader of the free world.

That being said, it continues to be a mystery to me as to how the left feel Russia ultimately got him elected. They obviously had no control over our ballots or voting process, as HRC did win the popular vote. I didn't receive any phone calls or e-mails from Russia influencing me to vote for Trump. None of the yard signs I saw were in Russian.

Did they pay for or contribute to his campaign? Probably - but HRC contributions amounted to in excess of $250 million MORE than the Don and the push for her here in Ohio FAR outweighed Trump.

Were there subliminal messages placed in our favorite television shows by the Russians saying "Vote Trump, Vote Trump"? I don't remember seeing any. Did the Russians kidnap and hold hostage Democrats to keep them from voting? Not that I know of.

Was / is Trump in bed with Putin and Russia regarding business transactions? Again, that's been well documented. But just how did / do those transactions have any influence on our election thousands of miles away?

And just what constitutes the labeling of Trump as committing acts of treason? Has he sold off our military secrets? Armed Russia with additional nukes? Put their interests ahead of ours? I don't believe he has done any of these things or others he has been accused of.

So, he leaned more toward Putin on his word than those of the US investigation, which many have referred to as a "witchhunt" with no interest whatsoever other than to remove Trump from office. What was he supposed to do on world wide television? Call Putin a liar and start WWIII? Would that have made the liberals happier?

The truth of the matter is, the Democrats elected to go with a candidate so despicable that even someone like Trump could and did defeat her and they refuse to admit it was THEIR mistake in doing so. They couldn't even get their own party and voters to cast a ballot in her favor.

Again, while she did win the popular vote, a good deal of that came from heavily populated states like New York and California which are and have always been blue states. The Electoral College was put in place to keep one or two states from determining the fate of the other 48. If I was a Democrat, I certainly wouldn't want my country and the decisions affecting it being run by one or two red states.

So I ask you west coasters and anyone else who wants to weigh in on this subject - how did Russia "fix" our election? What am I missing? What shred of evidence or proof is there that supports this investigation? Show me something - ANYTHING - that might support this theory. Because at this point, I just don't see it. Enlighten me!

GO DODGERS!!!

I did find out that it is illegal to accept campaign contributions from foreign countries, so that seems to be the root of the accusations. But c’mon - did those contributions from Russia REALLY fix the election?

And again, HRC received and outspent Trump by a quarter of a BILLION dollars. NO WAY anyone can convince me some of that money didn’t come from “foreign interests”. I saw twice as many Clinton signs, commercials, etc. than I did for Trump. Still didn’t want to make me vote for her.

So where is the collusion? I am on Twitter and follow a number of musicians and Hollywood types, 99% of whom are as far left as one can go. But their tweets are getting beyond ridiculous. She lost - it’s over - let it go!

Al Gore lost because of “hanging chads” and had the recount been completed correctly, he very well could have beaten Bush. And yes - he was rightfully upset and protested. But after a couple of weeks, he accepted the outcome. Two YEARS later and the Dems are STILL bitching.

Wanna take back the White House? Find a more viable, qualified and most importantly LIKABLE and electable candidate. People may not like Trump, but if the economy continues to grow and unemployment continues to fall, he has a very good chance at a second term, despite his constant lying and “foot in mouth” moments.

He has stood up to NATO, our allies and enemies and has stated we will no longer be the lapdogs for those countries that have taken advantage of the US for decades via “deals” made by previous administrations.

He may go down as one of the worst Presidents in history. But then again, he may be considered as one of the best. Only time will give us the answer to that. He still has another couple of years before the voters make that decision.

GO DODGERS!!!

I don’t believe for one minute any of those ads helped Trump or hurt Clinton. She was / is unlikeable from the get go and could even get members of her OWN PARTY out to vote for her.

And I understand it is illegal to accept campaign funding from foreign countries - but I’m not naive enough to think or believe Trump was the first to do so (and he certainly won’t be the last!).

Trump is a loudmouth and boor as you said; but he’s getting things done and doesn’t seem to give a damn about offending anyone in the process.

It will certainly be interesting with the upcoming midterms. The Dems seem confident that they will overtake Congress; but they also thought Hillary was a LOCK.

GO DODGERS!!!

I agree about the Electoral College. If a party or candidate focused on appealing to a few major cities he or she could swing the popular vote & to hell with Farmer John & his wife. And I'm a city boy.

This guy doesn't seem to feel complete without being embroiled in some sort of personal conflict. He takes everything far too personally.

Him giving business advice, after so many bankruptcies of his own, is mildly amusing. Maybe it was a strategic restructuring of debt, Don.

1 - I hear Frisco is way worse than LA too. But it makes sense that homeless people would pick a part of the nation where the weather is tolerable all year long. That you don't run the risk of freezing to death. 

2 - I just wish to hell he'd stop tweeting. We don't care what he thinks every time a thought pops into his head. It makes him look bad to be picking petty fights with former underlings & people he thinks are out to get him. 

3 - Which is why they're so eager to disarm us. 

4 - The PC part doesn't bother me nearly so much as what the lopsided nature of being PC in America entails. As a white male (supposedly hardwired into the 'system,' but who has actually lived somewhere in a never-never land in between), I find it offensive that I'm supposed to pay for the mistakes made by other white people of European extraction who lived & died before I was even born. Most (not 'some') of my friends are of color. Hell, I was a minority in my own household. So when people want to go 'there' with me, pretty much all of them would say it's a bad idea. 

Why did MLB change the Disabled List to the Injured List? Were disabled people offended? Get a grip. 

Sebastian Gorka at the center of Rose Garden ruckus following Trump event

Hunter Walker White House Correspondent,Yahoo News•July 11, 2019

WASHINGTON — It was an unusual spectacle, even by the unconventional standards of the Trump administration. After President Trump invited a group of right-wing and fringe media figures to the White House for a “social media summit” on Thursday, the event ended with a former presidential adviser and a CNN political analyst getting into a heated exchange in the Rose Garden.

The fracas followed an event that was billed as a “news conference” in which Trump announced an executive order directing U.S. agencies to provide the Commerce Department with all available data on the citizenship and non-citizenship status of everyone living in the country.

The Rose Garden event followed the social media summit and many of the same conservative media figures attended both, sandwiched between the president and the White House press corps.

When Trump finished speaking, CNN political analyst Brian Karem and former White House deputy assistant Sebastian Gorka exchanged words across the rope line that separated the two groups. Karem said something inaudible that prompted Gorka to charge across the garden and get in front of him.

“You’re not a journalist! You’re a punk!” Gorka fumed.

Gorka turned and walked away as the president’s other guests chanted his name.

One reporter from the White House press corps admonished Gorka as he left.

“You should not be attacking journalists like this!” she said.

Another man who was with the media contingent invited by the president came to Gorka’s defense.

“Just for the record, he’d kick your punk ass,” the man said to Karem.

Karem responded by shaking his head and walking towards the man. Security stepped in and guided Karem away.

The surreal scene was the culmination of a day when Trump aired a long list of grievances about the mainstream media and major technology companies. Speaking in the East Room of the White House, Trump told his guests that they were “fulfilling a vital role in our nation ... challenging the media gatekeepers and the corporate censors to bring the facts straight to the American people.” In the nearly hour-long speech, Trump repeatedly suggested there was a conspiracy that was preventing him from having more followers and viewers on social media platforms.

"There's no doubt in my mind that I should have millions and millions — I have millions of people, so many people I wouldn't believe it, but I know that we’ve been blocked,” Trump said. “People come up to me and they say, ‘Sir, I can’t get you. I can’t follow you.’”