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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 18, 2018 13:22:07 GMT
Jansen said he will need to watch video on Wednesday to help deduce the problems, but he suspects he is not fully extending on his delivery to home plate.
“Once I extend that’s when I have my best cut. Probably today that’s the one thing I misfired on,” Jansen said. “I just have to be consistent, stay behind the ball and make my spots. That’s when the ball cuts.”
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Post by laker8la on Apr 18, 2018 14:55:28 GMT
IMO, Jansen's cutter is not "cutting" as much as we are accustomed to seeing. He has always gotten away with throwing to any location because his cutter was hard and had late movement. For a couple of weeks his velocity was down 3-4 MPH, in the 90-91 range, but last night he seemed to be throwing it about 93 or so. However, the ball had no movement on it, and IMO that is why he got crushed. He needs to find that bite to his cutter for him to be effective again, and I believe he will.
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 18, 2018 15:18:43 GMT
IMO, Jansen's cutter is not "cutting" as much as we are accustomed to seeing. He has always gotten away with throwing to any location because his cutter was hard and had late movement. For a couple of weeks his velocity was down 3-4 MPH, in the 90-91 range, but last night he seemed to be throwing it about 93 or so. However, the ball had no movement on it, and IMO that is why he got crushed. He needs to find that bite to his cutter for him to be effective again, and I believe he will. Didn't the manager just say that? |
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Post by laker8la on Apr 18, 2018 16:37:30 GMT
IMO, Jansen's cutter is not "cutting" as much as we are accustomed to seeing. He has always gotten away with throwing to any location because his cutter was hard and had late movement. For a couple of weeks his velocity was down 3-4 MPH, in the 90-91 range, but last night he seemed to be throwing it about 93 or so. However, the ball had no movement on it, and IMO that is why he got crushed. He needs to find that bite to his cutter for him to be effective again, and I believe he will. Didn't the manager just say that? I have no idea, that was my takeaway from watching the game last night. I turned it off after Kenley blew the save because I had to get up early the next day for work. Glad they won, but I didn't see any postgame comments. |
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Post by speedcity on Apr 18, 2018 16:55:15 GMT
Were you not aware that pitchers start losing velocity as they age? You keep bringing this up like it’s surprising; it’s well documented that pitchers on average start losing velocity very early in their careers. I was aware that at some point it happens. Just is a concerning factor (with the teams goal) it happened to the teams two best pitchers at the same time. I think there is something else at play in Jansen's case. He has no idea where the ball is going (isn't locating). He may need a trip to the DL for the time being. He also hasn't pitched very often lately which doesn't help either. It’s not at some point. Pitchers (on average) start to lose velocity right at the beginning of their career. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 18, 2018 17:05:45 GMT
Didn't the manager just say that? I have no idea, that was my takeaway from watching the game last night. I turned it off after Kenley blew the save because I had to get up early the next day for work. Glad they won, but I didn't see any postgame comments. You have no idea? I had just posted Doc's comment in this thread.  ? |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 18, 2018 17:06:11 GMT
“The velocity was good but the characteristics of his cutter just weren’t doing what it typically does,” Roberts said. “There were some good throws but there were others that were straight as a string. The one to Hosmer, the one to Villanueva.” |
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Post by laker8la on Apr 18, 2018 17:17:22 GMT
I have no idea, that was my takeaway from watching the game last night. I turned it off after Kenley blew the save because I had to get up early the next day for work. Glad they won, but I didn't see any postgame comments. You have no idea? I had just posted Doc's comment in this thread. ? Didn't read the whole thread obviously. Glad my thoughts align with those of the manager. |
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Post by 88bulldog on Apr 18, 2018 17:46:42 GMT
emm hmm
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